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CARR SMITH: I make a motion that the Commission hears the case. <br /> YATES: I'll second. <br /> UNGER: We have a motion by Commissioner Carr Smith, second by Commissioner Yates. The <br /> floor is open for discussion. <br /> CARR SMITH: My feeling on this is just that we're all kind of vested in this. We've gone <br /> through these steps to date, and it seems like we could go ahead and hear the case. <br /> UNGER: Can Corporate Counsel give us just an idea of a time frame and time commitment? <br /> HALL: It's really hard to nail down what the time commitment would be, but I will say that <br /> there is mediation, right? So, everybody has to go to mediation before this whole, the actual <br /> contested case hearing. If mediation fails, it wouldn't be for another couple months, and then <br /> probably two to three months. I'm guessing. This is all approximate. And, then the actual <br /> hearing itself, depending on how many witnesses and exhibits and such, could be, you know, a <br /> day, or it could be a few days, you know. It's hard to tell without seeing what the parties are <br /> going to present. <br /> UNGER: Okay, and that, that is public testimony. Attorneys often are involved, or ? <br /> HALL: Everyone has a right to have an attorney present, if they would like to, but they do not <br /> have to have an attorney. And, yes, every hearing is pretty much similar to this where you would <br /> start with public testimony, but then it would then kind of switch into a quasi-judicial sort of <br /> hearing where, yeah, witnesses, evidence, and such, yeah. <br /> UNGER: Thank you. So, we do have a motion on the table. Any other comments or questions <br /> by the Commission? Hea inoa, roll call. <br /> JACKSON: Commissioner Carr Smith? <br /> CARR SMITH: Aye. <br /> JACKSON: Commissioner Yates? <br /> YATES: Aye. <br /> JACKSON: Commissioner Kealoha? <br /> KEALOHA: Aye. <br /> JACKSON: Commissioner Vitousek? <br /> VITOUSEK: Aye. <br /> 25 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />