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William Aila about this and he said that’s part of the eradication efforts – they <br />don’t care. You get some sick people – sorry… You guys can let animals die and <br />he told me that the big ranchers let these animals die because nobody buys them <br />because they don’t have feed so they going let them go. I get $150,000 worth of <br />animals in my pasture that go to people – to feed people, right. Now that’s my <br />personal animals. The state can shoot all the ones on the mountains – fence off <br />areas all over this Island and just kill animals in the name of saving one tree. But <br />how many invasive species have we allowed to come into Hawaii. <br /> <br />NP: Excuse me, so, Kanalu – can you tell me something about that. You said that on <br />the harvesting – the eradication on Mauna Kea there was – were a lot of the <br />babies left unshot and slow to starve to death – they don’t shoot – they don’t <br />capture all the babies and the babies are left without a mother and starve to <br />death? <br /> <br />KS: That probably happens. The goal of our operation is to remove all of the animals <br />and then unfortunately some of them starve to death… <br /> <br />NP: I just noticed on your count – the count of juveniles that are killed are really few <br />and the count of the female sheep is really large – so I would assume that that is <br />what Gerard is saying is true – is what I’m just checking on – is that what he’s <br />saying is true? <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, I think that’s a good assumption – that some young animals get left without <br />their mother and that they’re likely to starve to death. <br /> <br />NP: OK. Gerard, I just wanted to verify your information. Go ahead. <br /> <br />GD: I appreciate that. Um yeah, it’s a sad state when we can allow this to happen. I <br />\[unclear\] trap the sheep up in the mountain. I got dragged around, weeks on <br />weeks. I see you smile braddah. ‘Cause I did, I spent a lot of time on the phone <br />with a lot of people – only to get just dragged down. COVID came nobody said <br />nothing – end, fly and shoot. And 50% of that 50% wasn’t consumable. <br /> <br />KS: I don’t know you gotta ask the guys that… <br /> <br />GD: .50 Cal rounds through sheep, braddah, 50% is inconsumable – you hit one <br />sheep in the shoulder with one 22 it’s gone. You know how it works, Brah… <br /> <br />KS: Um-hum. <br /> <br />NP: You have to cut away the bad meat… <br /> <br />GD: Yeah, but, if you trap one animal you get 100% of the animal. I mean, if your <br />eradication efforts are to remove an animal and you plan on, I mean, you giving <br />the numbers – 50% of what you guys shot was consumed or brought out to be <br />15 <br /> <br /> <br />