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consumed. But 50% of that – so 25% of what you guys in actually – 25% of what <br />you guys went kill was only consumed. So 75% waste. That’s a lot of waste, <br />especially one time when people are starving. 60% of this island is unemployed <br />and we’re just leaving ‘em for the dogs on the mountain. You know, the palila <br />bird, the numbers going down – why? Cause you get cats up there. The sheep <br />never did make one decline on the palila bird. It was the feral cats that they like <br />go up in the mountain and nobody trap. The dogs that is up there that nobody do <br />nothing about. You got to talk about predators – that’s the only way something <br />going die is you get one predator, right or if the state creates one predator like, <br />hey, \[unclear\] like hey, killing all the sheep – so one palila bird – they guys going <br />shoot the palila bird – every time they see one they going shoot ‘em – why? <br />‘Cause that bird right there is taking food away from their family, right, so you <br />create a target when you do target species protecting, right, we get protection for <br />everybody but not for the Hawaiian people. Get invasive species on this Island – <br />invasive species on this Island get more protection than the Hawaiian people. <br />Not endangered species. But… <br /> <br />NP: Can you talk a little bit about Hawaiian homelands and what you know about the <br />eradication efforts on Hawaiian Homelands… <br /> <br />GD: I don’t know too much on the efforts. I know that they removing a lot of animals. <br /> <br />NP: Cause we don’t ever hear about that so much… <br /> <br />GD: I think they’re in the vicinity of some 200+ cattle went to Honolulu already from <br />this Island. They say it goes to the beneficiaries but not all the beneficiaries have <br />gotten it – that’s a whole ‘nother different meeting from this, but, um, I know the <br />state guys was taking cattle out of Keanakolu for their own personal gains. I <br />know something about hunters from Honolulu coming up to Mauna Kea and <br />shooting cattle and I also heard some stuff about state guys shooting cattle and <br />only taking the back straps cause that’s all they wanted for take. Um, you know, <br />it’s kind of one dangerous world we live in right now and a lot – they’re going <br />have repercussions from this – you know the sheep in the long run – that sheep <br />on Mauna Kea on DHHL - that sheep run every day from people. Every day it’s <br />gun fires – it’s madness up there. You don’t know where bullets are going, you <br />don’t know what direction people shooting and the sheep is always \[unclear\] so <br />the sheep are always frightened so when you actually do catch one sheep the <br />animals is full of adrenaline, um, and I’m pretty sure there’s gonna be long term <br />effects on the reproduction systems of the sheep being high stressed all the time. <br /> <br />NP: Yeah… <br /> <br />GD: Sheep that would be normally giving birth to two a year will drop down to one and <br />then your animal numbers will start dropping down even lower. <br /> <br />NP: So no refuge for the animals. <br />16 <br /> <br /> <br />