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<br />TN: Well, again, if there’s a trail that you’re interested in or want to have Na Ala Hele <br />look at - the proper venue is to bring it to the council. <br /> <br />NP: But even up in Puu Makaala – they actually took the accesses that were ancient <br />accesses and barred it all off from the hunters and turned it into actually the <br />place where they used to put their fences – so, I guess, that… <br /> <br />TN: It’s multi-folded because there are so many different trails throughout – even <br />though they’re under the Queen’s Act of 1892. First off – there’s got to be money <br />often times to survey for the metes and bounds of… <br /> <br />NP: I see, so it has to be proven… <br /> <br />TN: Right. And so they’ll go through vast inventory searches and then come to find <br />out somebody purchased the piece of property there where the trail used to be or <br />is no longer there so it becomes very complicated. <br /> <br />NP: So basically accesses have not been protected by government entities… <br /> <br />TN: I don’t think there is a government entity that protects all access… <br /> <br />NP: Unfortunately. <br /> <br />TN: So, again, if there’s a trail, a specific trail for an access – the council is a public <br />meeting and anyone is welcome to provide public testimony and if somebody <br />from a vested interest in – they’ll research it \[unclear\] but again it goes back to – <br />so unfortunately people have to do some of their own homework. <br /> <br />NP: Get at attorney… <br /> <br />TN: And, no, and just prove to the \[unclear\] this existed – a clear shot \[unclear\] trail <br />because of budget limitations… <br /> <br />NP: If anybody has a comment on this… <br /> <br />DF: Yeah, I do. Nani, this Don. <br /> <br />NP: I think we lost you… <br /> <br />DF: No. There’s a lot of interference… Real estate law has a thing called adverse <br />possession where if you use land that is not yours for I think it’s 20 years – you <br />have a right to go to court and claim ownership. And when I worked for <br />Alexander and Baldwin they would expand their cane fields onto neighboring <br />properties and then go and claim adverse possession and that was not a nice <br />thing to do but if something has been historically used – you can go to court and <br />5 <br /> <br /> <br />