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ALAMEDA:Director Yuen? <br />YUEN:Well first let me talk about that, that, the 2-person scenario that Mr. <br />Gimpel raises. And we discussed that, you€re not necessarily, and he and I discussed this as <br />well. I think we€re in agreement now that you€re not necessarily taking out that person that is in <br />Ocean View. But now we have ascenario where you have 2 people who have jobs in Kailua <br />Kona. Okay, one of them is already in Ocean View. Now, where is the other one living? If you <br />don€t give them a place to live in Kailua Kona where are they going to live? So, and the answer <br />is they€re going to live in Ocean View or they€re going to live in where€s the next affordable, I <br />don€t know where the next affordable place is now. North Kohala median home price is <br />$750,000, Waimea and South Kohala is over $500,000, Hamakua is over $400,000. This is the <br />over, this is a reality that we have to deal with. And they have people, you€re real fortunate you <br />have a place to live I know people€s kids don€t have a place to live. So we have to create places <br />for people to live. The Suffolk and Pua€a if they get off the ground that€s great. I can, I can, <br />there€sdefinitelymoreofadeficitinhousingthanjustSuffolkandPua€ainWestHawaii.And <br />the final thing on the TIAR. The TIAR is going to show you how badly congested an existing <br />road is going to be. This is really in, of all the places that you could put housing, this is going to <br />be one of the best served by a road system. You€re going to have a 4-lane road on Kuakini <br />coming up to here going into Kailua Kona and hopefully we get the Parkway and you have <br />another highway to get out here. So it€s going to look better than any other spot as far as the <br />immediate road connections to be able to get to a good highway from this location. <br />ALAMEDA:Follow up Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:I€m wondering if maybe we€re asking the wrong questions and instead of <br />saying where are these people going to live to get to the job in Kona is saying why don€t we <br />provide some jobs in Ocean View? And then they won€t have to do that long commute. So <br />maybe we€re, you know instead of looking at where are people gonna live, we should say well, <br />let€s look at where are people gonna work. <br />ALAMEDA:Any other questions for our applicants? Our staff or our Director? <br />Commissioner Watanabe? <br />WATANABE:I got one follow-up question for Mr. Elmer (sic.) because Mr. Elmer (sic.) <br />had referred to I guess somebody environmental concerns and the build out that€s going to occur <br />there and I was wondering if he had an opportunity to read condition W within the conditions. <br />And it refers to noise abatement etc. for the Parkway that€s projected to go in there and-. <br />Because you had referred to some of the costs that might be passed onto the County and I€m <br />wondering if this condition satisfies you to some degree at least? <br />ALAMEDA:And before you start Mr. Emler could you please state your name and <br />address just for the record and your position in the County so we know for the record where you <br />come out of. <br />EMLER:My name is Kiran Emler with-. My address too? <br />EXHIBIT A <br />11 <br /> <br />