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person with the spouse or children and they need additional space, then those people are able to occupy as guests, you know. Or if you come with your spouse and your spouse was not really a faculty person, then, I mean, she’d be as a guest at Kalani. We have a program for the guests and staff and faculty. RHO: So there’s no, nothing in the document, cause I thought I read that there could be up to two guests in a room. So you would have two in G, two in G, two in F and two in S. That’s not true? KOOB: Well, yes, that is true. Because I think we generally consider it, as in any retreat or anywhere, that people sometimes double occupy a room. We’re not saying that, you know, people can’t sleep together. GRAHAM: Okay, thank you. Commissioner Galdones, did you have any questions or thoughts to put forward at this time? GALDONES: Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is my opinion, how I view this situation that we have before us. What was presented to the Commissioners back in 2002 is not the same as what we are dealing with right now. It appears to me as an amendment of what was presented back in 2002. So my comfort level, and it is my opinion that that being the case an amendment to the special permit should be what the Commissioners should be dealing with. If it was the same, then I don’t think we would be here today. Some of the things that are being discussed I do not feel comfortable that it is considered to be what was presented under Special Permit 1186. I’d rather see this come before us an amended special use permit. GRAHAM: Thank you, Mr. Galdones. Well, I got, go ahead, Mr. Torigoe. TORIGOE: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to encourage the Commissioners to remember that this is basically an informational meeting today and no decision is being asked of you. And so it’s good to give the Director and the parties a sense of what your concerns are, but I also want to remind you to just keep an open mind. You know, this is not a necessarily all the information that you are ever going to get on this. There may come a time when someone brings a request for an amendment before you or some other official action before you. But I just want to encourage you to keep an open mind on this at this point. And it’s okay for you to, you know, express your concerns on areas that you want to see flushed out; and hopefully the parties can respond to that. GRAHAM: Thank you, Mr. Torigoe. Mr. Strauss or Mr. Koob, I have been thinking how I might frame a question that I think would get to the heart of the issue or something. And what I was coming up with was like to ask you, suppose you took steps to conform with what would be clearly acceptable to Mr. Yuen, which to me sort of means any investor doesn’t get identified to any specific piece of the property. But maybe you see it a little bit different or maybe I’m not characterizing it right. So where I’m going is suppose you did take some steps on your side to conform to what would be acceptable to him, could you not arrive at what you’d like to arrive at anyway? Could you not come up with a project that would pretty much meet what you want to do? EXHIBIT C 20