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YEH: Yeah, basically that ordinance comes into play or gets triggered by a plan approval <br />request. And so I was going to get into that a little bit. But if you look thorough the background <br />report that was provided by staff, somewhere towards the back two-thirds of that portion you’ll <br />see that on March 28, 1994 the Planning Department did in fact give plan approval already. So <br />we were going to suggest that was one of the conditions, along with the drainage conditions, that <br />we were going to request to be deleted. What, if you take a look at, and this is a good <br />opportunity for me to explain a little about this issue and why we’re sitting here today, is because <br />basically if you take a look and continue on past that plan approval document, the premise for <br />issuance of the plan approval at that time was based on a letter from the Withers to operate this <br />fruit stand; and in there they did indicate that it would provide people the opportunity to sample <br />and consume the fruits on the farm, along with island health made snacks. So as it turns out <br />through the evolution of the business, they have a 25, basically approximately 25- to 30-square <br />foot area that they put in some of these other nonconsumable knickknacks that visitors tend to <br />like to buy. And that’s why we’re sitting here today, because if it weren’t for that area, we <br />wouldn’t be getting to this whole special permit issue, because the plan approval had already <br />been issued. <br />So because of that, what we’re requesting the Commission to consider is a deletion of the new <br />plan approval requirement that has been suggested by staff as a condition, because we’re saying <br />plan approval was given. Nothing has really changed. We haven’t relocated the building. The <br />drainage has never been an issue. They’ve been operating for 15 years on the same basis. And <br />so in the discussion that I had with Kelly, and to his credit, he has pointed out some of these <br />provisions that may or not be triggered depending on what the Commission does today. When I <br />did have discussions with him, and Kelly is here to confirm or whatever, we discussed the fact <br />that they had been in operation. And basically I had understood that from a practical standpoint, <br />setting aside this ordinance provision, but from a practical standpoint if we weren’t really <br />changing the location or doing any expansion, a drainage study really wasn’t something that was <br />going to be at least considered mandated; and that’s just a practically issue. Cause they have <br />been operating 15 years. There have been no complaints, no drainage issues on the road, <br />anything like that. So I know that’s a long-winded discussion but it gave me an opportunity to <br />kind of talk about the history of where the Withers have come from then until now on at least on <br />those issues. <br />IWASHITA: Just to follow-up with staff on the ’94 plan approval and -. <br />WOODWARD: Right. I believe staff has got some, there were several conditions that they <br />would like to have changed. <br />IWASHITA: Well, I just wanted clarification, Mr. Chair. <br />WOODWARD: Okay, sure. <br />IWASHITA: In the report for this matter, background report, there is included the final plan <br />approval from March 21, 1994; and in that plan approval there’s a reference to off-street parking <br />and a ditto which basically says as per plan. So I’m assuming there was a site plan that had the <br />7 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />