2022-05-19 Leeward Exh B (Item 2 Council Bill No 120 PL-CC-2022-000001)

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VITOUSEK: In Recommendation 12, I guess, the question is in the process of plan review, where does HELCO review to establish grid capability come into the review of a retrofit for an existing structure? KERN: HELCO is not generally involved in the Plan Approval process. That would probably be something that would be worked out by the owner or lessee prior, as they would know that that requirement coming in so that they would have to work with HELLO, or whatever operator, to provide that infrastructure even if they are creating their own power source, right? So they would have to solve for how they would meet this criteria, and then we would verify it from the Plan Approval that they have the right number of stalls on their plan, and then before they get a certificate of occupancy, we would go back out and verify that those plugs and stalls are actually there. But we actually don't get involved in the HELCO portion of it. VITOUSEK: So the adequacy of the existing electrical infrastructure would have to be established by the applicant who is applying for it? And so they'd be coming in saying they've consulted with HELCO and they've determined that there is adequate or there is not adequate electrical infrastructure to allow the charging stations? KAY: So I think we would likely require some evidence from HELCO and not just their word VITOUSEK: Right— KAY: ightKAY: —say, yes, this is a situation here where we are going to try and apply for the exemption under the law, but, so it may be helpful, similar to the aggregation principle, to add some language in there to say we need some evidence, if they are going to be coming in and claiming an exception. So the FIRM, the FIRM map is pretty easy for us to look at, but something, some evidence from the provider to say, hey, we don't have the requisite capability for the infrastructure here VITOUSEK: Yeah, that was KAY: please give us the variance, please give us the exemption. VITOUSEK: If there could be language in there that qualifies review by the utility in determining whether or not adequate electrical service exists for the area. KIMBALL: That makes sense, no problem, okay. VITOUSEK: And if Jennifer from HELCO wants to weigh in on that, please do. No? Okay. Let's see, now, the question that Vice Chair DeFranco raised briefly about the source of power, I think is a good thing again to be looking out in the future, because it doesn't make sense to be charging an electric vehicle by burning a fossil fuel; it serves the same thing as burning a fossil fuel. So if there is ways of coordinating the use of energy and charging at times when the solar renewable resources are available. I don't know if that could be built in here. 21 EXHIBIT B