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situations, site specific conditions like in that one that you keep the house. There has been one in
<br />Waiakea House Lots that was very similar to that, we said keep the house.
<br />But in general, okay, its still valid to say thatyouregoing to have a commercial area and a
<br />person is seeking zoning andthey will have a range of different possibilities that will come in.
<br />They may have a site thats zoned for a shopping center. This Ginger Patch development that we
<br />had in Hilo last month is an example of a different type of situation where they may have an idea
<br />of what kind of tenants they want, but you dont know until the property is marketed. And I
<br />think realistically you have to allow some degree of flexibility.
<br />Now at the planning stage for this of how many trips are you expecting it to generate and how
<br />many, should you make them have an extra turn lane or two turn lanes, then you have to then
<br />have some way of accommodating that or averaging that. Some of it is done actually in the
<br />traffic manual. Say a shopping center theyll incorporate an averaging, because they just assume
<br />thatashoppingcenterhasadifferent,youknow,arangeofuses,andsotheresafigureforthe
<br />shopping center. And thats all that this says, is that you can, because were making this
<br />requirement at the zoning stage, when they come in at the zoning stage we can accommodate
<br />some averaging for a commercial zone.
<br />SIRACUSA:I think more like what Im thinking of is that some of the uses that we
<br />considered to be Commercial really should be recategorized as Light Industrial to be more
<br />appropriate, you know. Because you just mentioned right here, you know, fast food restaurants,
<br />offices and gas stations, to me a gas station seems to be more of a Light Industrial kind of an
<br />application than a Commercial one. Maybe my concept of what Commercial is is different than
<br />yours or the standard textbook. But to me anything thats a little bit on the obnoxious side in
<br />terms of fumes, emissions, smell, noise, things like that would be more appropriate in the Light
<br />Industrial, really Heavy Industrial, than in a Commercial. Thats all Im saying.
<br />YUEN:Well, its a hard line to draw. And just to give an example, Village
<br />Commercial which is the type of zoning that we have in our towns around the island like
<br />Naalehu or Pahala, you can do a gas station. Well, you dont want to have to drive around the
<br />island and not come to a gas station, so it has to go into some kind of a zoning. By the same
<br />token you might not want to have a Light Industrial zoning in the middle of Naalehu. So you
<br />have Village Commercial as being the type of zoning that has gas stations. Theres a hundred
<br />ways to do this and its a very hard line to draw. All I can say is our Zoning Code is not a typical
<br />code that youll see around the country; and it is a mater of wording. Many of the things that we
<br />call Industrial to my way of thinking are not in the noxious, polluting, Heavy Industrial realm. In
<br />fact, the bulk of the Light Industrial uses we have are things like warehouses and storage areas,
<br />and things that dont involve manufacturing, lot of engines, smokestacks, and the like.
<br />GRAHAM:Other comments from Commissioners? Chris, I personally certainly agree
<br />with your original sense that these bills are not good, the four bills, even though their intention is
<br />good. And I think you gave examples and so did Roger Harris at our Hilo meeting. But I must
<br />confess I tend to feel the same way about your revised 318, like, you know, its a good intention,
<br />but when I start looking about how would you implement it, it seems to me its another level of
<br />laws and regulations that are going to just lead to more snag ups and disputes in the process; and
<br />really its just an issue of our democratic process. You can recommend, currently, approval or
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