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not approval based on these very ideas that you put forward here. And if the Council is democratically responsible to its constituents, and they get elected every two years and the constituents pay attention, theres no reason the Council shouldnt act in a reasonable way. So even though that doesnt always happen, it feels like the way to deal with it is just to increase the democratic involvement, which were kind doing now with the community development plans which I think are very good. But to just throw more kind of laws on the books with specific things like they have to conform where mitigation can be avoided if they conform to the community development plan, well, then that gets into a big gray area of weve got to vote on whether it really conforms to the plan or not. And, I dont know, I just feel it all leading down a road that looks unattractive to me. Could you comment on my thoughts there? YUEN:Well, I think there is a lot of validity in what you said; and its true that the Department and the Council absent an ordinance could look at some of these kinds of factors. And some of them are common sense. There is a downside to putting in an ordinance because it doeslimitflexibility.Partofthisworkupisbecausewehadaseriesofordinancescomeupfrom the Council and rather than simply say, you know, reject all of them, not a good try, I thought on the zoning level it would be useful to try to take the intent and to put it into a workable ordinance that would then provide a framework for the specific zoning decisions in the future. As I mentioned in the write-up, some of the things that we have been recommending in some of the rezonings that have come forward, the major rezonings, have applied these basic kinds of principals, sometimes without saying the word concurrency. Weve had timing conditions. Weve had conditions of rezoning for example with Palama Nui that tied implementation of part of the project to the widening of the Queen Kaahumanu Highway to four lanes. You know, weve done that kind of thing. So I dont really disagree with you. I do think that, just to step back a bit, if you look at the Zoning Code theres like about one paragraph about when you rezone something; and its something like if its good for motherhood, apple pie and, you know, theres about one sentence about furthers the greater good and conforms to the General Plan. And I do think that it would be useful to everybody if the County had something besides -. And then there are things in the General Plan, you know, the overall policies that are in the General Plan. But something in the Zoning Code that really tried to lay out what are criteria to look at;, and it wouldnt even have to be in the Zoning Code, but what are the criteria to look at. I think that part of the original to 318 is to look at water and roads and to say what are the kinds of criteria and what is the point at which you say no or wait because the roads are too bad or the water supply is too iffy. GRAHAM:Thank you for your thoughts. Yes, Commissioner Woodward. WOODWARD:I think too, Mr. Chairman, the one thing from a purely pragmatic standpoint is were just making a recommendation to the Council, theyre going to do what they want. And I think its far better to have this amended document than to have them enact the original 318; and I think theyll see by the work that Chris has done there has been a lot of thought put into this. And I think were likely to get something thats much more palatable than if we just send a negative recommendation on all of them, to be honest with you. GRAHAM:Thank you. Good point. Commissioner Domingo? 9EXHIBIT D