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TORIGOE:Yeah, Ill justmaybe make a couple of possible suggestions and certainly <br />Im open to any other input from the Director or the Commissioners. But it seems at this point <br />what you have is a conditional withdrawal thats on the table of the contested case hearing. One <br />thing you could do is, you know, normally when you have awarded standing to a party you go <br />ahead and you decide whether to outsource the hearing, and then you go ahead and have the <br />contested case hearing. Today, its alittle different in that you have the contested case <br />intervenor basically saying theyre willing to withdraw if certain conditions are included in any <br />approval. So, at this point, what you might do is ask the parties if they are willing to modify the <br />contested case procedure. Your Rule 4-1 allows that any procedure in a contested case may be <br />modified or waived by stipulation of the parties. So the parties are willing to agree, basically, <br />that they will allow the Commission to engage in a deliberative discussion about whether there <br />should be an approval of this application with the conditions in it; and if the Commission comes <br />to that decision to grant the permit with the conditions, then that motion could also include an <br />acceptance of the withdrawal of the contested case intervention. If that motion passes, then that <br />essentiallywoulddisposeofthematter.Ifthemotiondoesnotpass,well,thenwewouldhaveto <br />consider whether to go on with the contested case hearing, I guess, with the understanding that <br />there is still this idea in the background that if these conditions are at some point included that <br />the intervenor may still want to withdraw. <br />SPRINGER:Commissioners, any questions of Mr. Torigoe on the procedure that he has <br />fleshed out for us? Commissioner Watanabe? <br />WATANABE:Yeah, if the motion that you describe does not passed, wouldnt that mean <br />its sort of moot as far as the contested case hearing is concerned, because that would imply that <br />we didnt approve the project anyway, the special permit? <br />TORIGOE:Well, it may and may not, you know, because what you would have that <br />point is that you have not approved the permit with the suggested conditions. Now, at that point, <br />I guess, we would have to ask the parties how they would like to proceed, whether theyd like to <br />just from that point go on to a formal contested case so that all the evidence can be presented and <br />you can make a formal decision on the full record of the contested case, or whether they would <br />like to just ask the Commission to allow them to present whatever testimony and whatever <br />evidence they want to present to date, and ask you to make a decision. Commissioner Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA:Yes. I would like to know, well, two things. One is Id like to know if we <br />could do just sort of like the way you do friendly amendments, you know, to a motion. If we <br />could approve, if we could move to insert those conditions in the permit before we decide to vote <br />on whether or not were going to approve the permit? And then the second question would be I <br />noticed that the Board did not vote on the question of the service station, and Mr. Yamada has <br />said he has withdrawn that. But because these things run with the land and Mr. Yamada, <br />anything can happen, he might decide that he doesnt really want to run a mall or complex like <br />that in the future, and sell it off to somebody else, and they might decide to put the service <br />station in -? So we might want to consider adding another condition regarding a service station. <br />SPRINGER:Mr. Torigoe? <br />8 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />
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