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facts and maybe wait and see what some of these community groups have come up with to see the best way to handle the traffic and the infrastructure. People come here because we are not Oahu, and because we are not Maui. We still have some beautiful beaches, places to hike, and wide open spaces. I ask that you be careful about granting permits until we address the many problems that affect those of us who live here now. Without doing that, were compounding our problems to the point that any fixes will be at best costly and at worst unable to be addressed. Thank you. ALAMEDA:Thank you. Any questions for our testifier? Commissioner Graham? GRAHAM:Just a few comments. I think we do, I mean, Im really in favor of preserving our shorelines and, you know, not having these kinds of projects. But I think we need to keep in mind, like I think what Mr. Mooers was saying, in this particular case there is a project immediately to the north and another immediately to the south with just as high or higher density than this one right now, and the Planning Director has put in rather stringent requirements to try to preserve the viewplanes the best he can. So, in general, you know, Im inclined to go along with this one because of those particular considerations. I think the water is coming from Waikoloa Water Company, if I remember. No? MOOERS:Kohala Ranch. GRAHAM:Kohala Ranch, excuse me. Kohala Ranch Water Company, thats what I meant. I know it used to be an issue with Kohala Estates folks that Kohala Ranch was not giving them as much water as they wanted and all, but I havent heard any more about that lately. Anyway, I certainly feel like you do, but it feels like the most important thing is to do the best we can with the viewplane on something like this. SACHER:Okay. GRAHAM:Thanks. ALAMEDA:Any other questions? We do appreciate your testimony. Thank you very much. Will the applicant/representative please return. As youre sitting there, Mr. Mooers, any additional thoughts came to mind? MOOERS:Yeah, Id like to address a couple of things Mr. Sacher brought up. I think that hes right, we should try to get as many facts as possible. First of all, as far as the access to this site, this site was owned by Kahua and Ponoholo Ranches for years and it has been gated. Even though there have been some lateral pedestrian accesses, there has been no mauka/makai access through this. There has been no jeep trails through this. So its not a matter of taking an area and fencing it off or gating it away. The access will actually be improved to this area, improvedoverwhatitistoday. Second,asyoupointedoutMr.Graham,thewaterforthisareaisgoingtobeprovidedbya privatewatersystem,theKohalaRanchWatersystem.Thisprojectwiththislowdensityis usingjustafractionofthe87,000gallonsadaythathasbeenallocatedtothisproject.Sothere reallyisverylowimpactonthatwater.AndIwouldpointoutthatWestHawaiihasmore groundwaterthantheentireislandofOahu.Sotheproblemswehavewithwaterisnotthatwe donthavewater,itswedonthavethedistributionsystem.Inthiscase,theKohalaWater Systemdrillingtheirownwells,providingtheirownreservoirsprovidesthatwater.Sothisis notwaterthatwaspartofthepublicsystem.SoIjustwantedtopointoutthat,again,itslow density, much lower density than the surrounding properties are. Theres adequate water for it and theres actually excess water thats allocated for the project that will not be used. ALAMEDA:Given that, any further questions? Commissioner Galdones. 13