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M. ROY:So would you say then that the viewplane that you just spoke of <br />and that is protected in the coastal zone management was important then as it is to be <br />protected now in the law? <br />KANAHELE:I think that her hale should be protected, thatÓs what I think. I <br />think that the area above it should also be protected. To be able to, that, one of my <br />recommendations that I didnÓt mention before is that the State also acquire those houses <br />thatÓs there, four houses thatÓs there, because thatÓs part of the Keolonhihi-Keakealani <br />Complex. <br />But, as I was saying, all of that was part of their complex, Keakealani. Whether there <br />was a structure on it or whether it was not, that whole ahupuaÒa was part of their <br />complex. The fact that they just lived in, they did a particular function in this place, in <br />this place, and in this place didnÓt mean that the places around it had no function. It had a <br />function. <br />M. ROY:Would you also speak to its function with relevance to, was this <br />just land void of the mana associated with those neighboring areas? <br />KANAHELE:No. <br />M. ROY:Would you say then that these lands contain mana as do th <br />residences? <br />KANAHELE:The land has mana. <br />M. ROY:This land in question and the development plan that you see before <br />you slates a plan for the height at its final, at something like 78 feet above sea level? <br />KANAHELE:Your previous question is like asking me what is important, the <br />child that is in the womb, or the child that you gave birth to, or after the child grew up <br />and becomes the man or the woman that becomes the ruling chief? <br />child is important, what part of the child is the most mana? I donÓt know. They are all <br />one and the same. <br />M. ROY:Thank you. Thank you, Aunty Pua. IÓve completed my time <br />GIFFIN:Thank you. Mr. Vitousek? <br />VITOUSEK:Thank you. Ms. Kanahele, IÓm Randy Vitousek and I repr <br />th <br />Wayne Blasman. In the ahupuaÒa of Hlualoa 4 there, and particularly the reference to <br />the area just in the vicinity of Alii Drive, could I direct your attention to the map thatÓs on <br />the wall behind you that I think was -. <br />KANAHELE:This map? <br />17 <br /> <br />