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VITOUSEK:Yes, I believe thatÓs Klana Huli HonuaÓs Exhibit 9. Is that <br />correct? <br />GIFFIN:Yes. <br />VITOUSEK:Now, it appears that there are several parcels on the mauka side of <br />Alii Drive there that up, theyÓre Land Commission award numbers. IsnÓt that correct? <br />And thatÓs usually indicative that those were kuleana which were awarded to a native <br />tenant during the Mahele and to the Land Commission process, isnÓt that correct? <br />KANAHELE:Yes. <br />VITOUSEK:And so how would you interpret the presence of so many kuleana <br />in the, along the road there in that ahupuaÒa in light of what you were saying about the <br />fact that the complex is all one complex and -? <br />KANAHELE:Well, the time of the kuleana is the time that weÓve already been <br />inundated by other cultures and other values. And so they went in to satisfy that <br />particular time; and the other cultures, they went into the idea of dividing the land. ItÓs, a <br />different time, different group of people do not take away from sacredness of that land. <br />And the kuleanas also went to aliis of, that was, resided on that land; also, aliis that had <br />some kind of kuleana for that land, or in association with the land. <br />VITOUSEK:But does it suggest that at least at the time of the Mahele and the <br />subsequent Land Commission that individual native Hawaiians felt they owned separate <br />or, you know, felt they were entitled to separate defined parcels in that area? <br />KANAHELE:I donÓt think they thought that they were entitled to it. I think that <br />the land was afforded them because they lived there for awhile. <br />coming down as far as the law is concerned that the land be divided; and so it was <br />divided according to who was there. And a lot of times in the Mahele, they didnÓt feel <br />like they were entitled to the land. They were just going along with what was there with <br />the alii; and a lot of them gave their land back because they didnÓt know what to do with <br />the land. So as far as entitlement is concerned, at that point of the Mahele, there was no <br />idea of entitlement. <br />VITOUSEK:I may have mis-spoke. I didnÓt intend to impute more to <br />entitlement than I meant. All I was trying to get at was that there were individual land <br />claims which were made and found valid in the Land Commission pr <br />resulted in -. <br />KANAHELE:It was found valid according to -. <br />VITOUSEK:The Land Commission? <br />18 <br /> <br />