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TYLER:Okay. And I’d like to have that if I can because I think it’s very relative, it’s very relevant to what this Steering Committee of the Kona Community Development Plan has; and I don’t think we’ve ever seen that. ALAMEDA:Sure. TYLER:And make sure, please, you are paying attention to the evacuation flooding; and I think this mauka-makai road, but only one way. In other words, you don’t want it opened. Just, it’s only in time of emergency, and that’s it. Thank you very much. I’d be very happy to answer any questions. ALAMEDA:Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Tyler? Commissioner Salavea? SALAVEA:Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for your testimony, Mr. Tyler. So is it your contention that these sites are actively being used or recent, in recent history have been used? And that’s the reason for the need to identify what type of uses, how frequent and so on, so that they can be considered in the design of this project? TYLER:Well, let me say that, yes, perhaps. I’m not a, I’m not an expert on who may or may not be going on that property or have specific lineal descendancy. I don’t claim lineal descendancy to this property at this point in time. I do claim and will be formally claiming cultural descendancy, which is why Dr. Hahn sent me this stuff. But it’s not enough that somebody is, has done necessarily, just has done it or might be doing it. It has to go much beyond that; and I gave you folks at the last meeting specific information about what was required. I read to you right out of the OEQC Guidelines. And I did this not to create a problem for Mr. Dickler or Mr. Fuke. I did this because I want to be helpful to this Board, to this Commission, excuse me, to make sure that you, that you have an opportunity to consider those things which are legally required to be considered so that we don’t end up in an adversarial relationship; and I’m not suggesting that I’m going to be in that position, Mr. Salavea. I’m just saying it’s much better to be proactive than it is to be reactive, ‘cause then it costs a lot more money and time. So it’s like the trail, you know, whether the integrity of the trail out there is not, is immaterial as to whether or not it’s going to be traditional customary gathering rights, or traditional customary practice would be allowed. And it’s, there are people from this area whom I know that I know, I feel fairly certain, I can’t say I know, but I feel fairly certain would exercise their traditional and customary rights or practice to cultural resources located on this property, as well as above it and in the area. Thank you. SALAVEA:Just to follow-up -. ALAMEDA:Sure, follow-up. SALAVEA:So, and I guess the point I got from your testimony is that the archaeological resources and the cultural practices and resources are related but still, they’re interdependent, but they’re also independent and studies need to be -. Well, we know the archaeological sites have been identified. But the cultural aspect and component of what has been practiced and what might still be, being practiced is independent, and needs to be identified and specified. Is that what -? EXHIBIT B 26