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GRAHAM:Okay, fine. Maybe, well, later when Mr. Mooers comes back he <br />can respond to that. Thank you. <br />FUJIKAWA:You may proceed. <br />HANEY:Thank you. I just wanted to answer your question. I was <br />the people who said that I saw it in the application, which I could show you in a later <br />point in time. ItÓs a sketch and it might be preliminary so IÓm just, unfortunately, like I <br />said, you know, IÓm not blaming the developer for this. Our Board has not been able to <br />get us any information at all. We have not seen any viewplane drawings, weÓve seen next <br />to nothing. What I had to go on is what is on the application. What weÓre actually <br />referring to is theyÓre like sandboxes that go on the end of the swimming pool area. They <br />jut out from the edge of the swimming pool. It looks like thereÓs sand in there with palm <br />trees coming out of it. ThatÓs the nearest thing we can tell. <br />I hope that that wouldnÓt be allowed. Maybe I saw it wrong on the drawing but it sure <br />looked like that to me, so -. Thank you. <br />FUJIKAWA:Okay. Commissioner Kubota? <br />KUBOTA:I have a question of the Planning Director. You know, IÓve heard <br />in testimony by these people here that the kiawe, old historic kiawe tree was chopped <br />down, the gravesite was there, and so forth. And yet we have, on the other hand, contrary <br />reports in our background by consultants that were hired by the Applicant. My question <br />now is how much, how much obligation is the Applicant under to provide for these kinds <br />of concerns that the testifiers here bring forth to us? And they are legitimate concerns. <br />But the owner is under what kind of an obligation to satisfy these concerns that they bring <br />up, how much do they have to do over and beyond hiring a consultant to do archeological <br />work and accepting or not accepting their reports? Over and beyond that, how much, <br />how far do we have to go, the Applicants have to go to acquiesce <br />development can take place, other than going through the proper channels of getting <br />permits and following the rules and regs of the County for development? How much <br />more do they have to give? <br />FUJIKAWA:Planning Director Chris Yuen, go ahead. <br />YUEN:Well, first I want to hear what the Applicant has to say about the <br />information about the burials. Because burials is a very sensitive issue. If we left it, if <br />they said we donÓt know anything, we would ask him to make a tho <br />into, try figure out what has happened here because, you know, this being that there was a <br />burial and thereÓs no physical sign of it anymore. It may be that the Applicant has no <br />idea of what happened, that the property was in its present condition before they bought <br />it. And then I think we would say that if anybody, if it appears that at some time in the <br />past the burial has been removed, then they would not be expected to do anything further. <br />FUJIKAWA:Does that answer your question? <br />14 <br /> <br />