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SPRINGER:Mr. Matsukawa have you heard Commissioner Graham€s comment and <br />question and can you respond to it? <br />MATSUKAWA:Yes I tend to agree with Mr. Graham. I think the issues are very <br />discreet. One would be law questions that may or may not fall within your jurisdiction to <br />answer but nevertheless needs to be addressed. And the second would be the factual <br />questions that assuming certain things were true and valid etc. what impacts within the <br />definition of rule 6 does this particular application present? And that could be presented quite <br />I think in a compact format. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you Mr. Matsukawa. Mr. Ibbetson do you have any comments <br />at this time? <br />IBBETSON:No I don€t think so, not at this point. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you Mr. Ibbetson. Commissioners you€ve heard the discussion <br />from the Director and our colleague Mr. Graham, other feelings on this matter of whether or <br />not to outsource. <br />ALAMEDA:Madam Chair? <br />SPRINGER:CommissionerAlameda? <br />ALAMEDA:ItendtoagreewithCommissionerGrahamonthisone.Ithinkthisis <br />something that we could be able to address here at, within our own meetings via an agenda <br />item. <br />SPRINGER:Commissioners? Commissioner Salavea? <br />SALAVEA:After clarification and thank you Commissioner Graham for bringing <br />that up. Yeah, I also agree and we think that we can handle this. <br />SPRINGER:Okay. Commissioner Watanabe do you concur? <br />WATANABE:It€s fine with me. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you Commissioners. In this event then can we look at our <br />calendar and see what sort of time frame we€re looking at? For this to be taken up at a Kona <br />st <br />meeting. If the agenda€s are full. If we would be able to take it up on I believe October 21 <br /> is <br />ournextmeetingorifweshouldmoveitforwardtoNovember? <br />st <br />HAYASHI:Yeah,Idon€tthinkthatwouldbepracticaltohaveitonthe21.The <br />reason why I state that is that what we need to dois notify the parties that they need to submit <br />exhibitsandtheirwitnesslist.Sopreferablywewouldliketohavethatmovedbackalittle <br />bit to the November meeting if that€s okay with the Commission. <br />EXHIBIT E <br />19 <br /> <br />