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I mean, you know, we contacted these guy. I was not aware of it, youknow, the need to
<br />do any more than go along with what was required. Id be happy to have -.
<br />MCCALL:Yeah. On your letter that you contacted them, it looks, did you, it
<br />sounds to me like you said that this was all sugar cane land and had been previously
<br />bulldozed, or previously cleared.
<br />MCKINNEY:I dont recall the exact letter. I believe I just said were applying
<br />for this Special Permit on this particular TMK and were asking for a -.
<br />KAISER:Yeah, and the first that we heard about that place was when I met
<br />with Mr. Cross and he mentioned the existence of it just makai of our property boundary.
<br />I hadnt been able to find it but if hed been there, I mean, other than the fact that it was
<br />all covered up -. So at the time we wrote the letter, we werent aware of, that there was
<br />anythingonornearourproperty-.
<br />MCCALL:Yeah.Myconcern,ofcourse,isforthemaukahalfofyour
<br />property that I think an archaeologist would need to come out there and take a look at it
<br />before -. Because I think theres, you know, even besides the Waiubata Cave, I think we
<br />need to look at what else is on the property before we allow clearing and stuff.
<br />GALDONES:Jeff, in Condition No. 4, on No. 3, would that take care of the
<br />concern thats being raised by Commissioner McCall and, also, in the letter from
<br />Mr. Silva in reference to petroglyphs?
<br />DARROW:It could. But, again, as we were mentioning earlier, were
<br />depending solely on the Applicant regarding, you know, finding any unidentified sites. It
<br />appears that, at this point, there are sites in the area possibly, that are, you know, theyre
<br />being identified; and we might want to look at taking a further step.
<br />GALDONES:So the second sentence was, speaks of subsequent work proceeding
<br />with the archaeological clearance, would be after they have identified the objects.
<br />Commissioner McCall, are you okay with that language or are you advocating proposing
<br />a much stronger language that the study be done before anything occurs?
<br />MCCALL:I would, my recommendation would be, my thoughts would be, as
<br />I say is done, say, like the Kona parcels and stuff where, you know, that we get before
<br />anything is done, before we issue a permit that an archaeologist comes in and takes a look
<br />at it. And then after the archaeologist has given his okay or shown what parcels or what
<br />portions need to be preserved, then something like, like No. 3, then could come into
<br />effect for anything that is found afterwards. But I think, in my opinion, we need to do an
<br />archaeological study before any permits are -. That would be my preference.
<br />GALDONES:Mr. Yuen, could this be considered a sensitive area that a condition
<br />be placed upon the application?
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