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YUEN:Yeah, based on what I€m hearing, this is the sort of thing where we <br />normally would have some kind of archaeologicalstudy accompany the application. Our <br />standard practice is that we require an archaeological study unless they get this no-effect <br />letter‚ from State Historic Preservation Division. Unfortunately, and they€re usually, I€m <br />amazed at the amount of good work that they do with the staffing that they have, and <br />they€re usually pretty reliable about this. But it looks like they may have thought that the <br />whole site was cultivated. They will often issue these, they will usually issue no-effect‚ <br />letters when it has been in sugar cane cultivation, other kinds of active farming, or there <br />has been a house there before, those kinds of things, and the ground has been completely <br />disturbed. I don€t think that, I don€t know that they would issue this letter where the site <br />had not been previously disturbed. <br />GALDONES:I see. Okay. Commissioner Springer? <br />SPRINGER:Sowoulditbepossibleforustorequestanarchaeologicalsurvey <br />before we continue on with this application, which is what I think Commissioner McCall <br />is leading us towards in his discussion? <br />YUEN:Well, it€s up to the Commission how they want to handle this. But <br />we could, you could either do it, you could do that or you could do it subject to, you <br />could approve subject to the work being done. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM:My sense, we€re doing a lot of talk without having heard from the <br />public yet, which is probably our mistake, but my sense is that there€s a lot of premature <br />things to this. It feels a little bit like a chicken and an egg. If you guys can get this <br />permit then you got something substantial to go back to the community with and, you <br />know, get some support, and get some licensed folks to work with you, and all like that. <br />But, on the other side, we€re kind of, I€m sort of at least sitting here thinking I€d like a <br />show on that you guys are a viable entity that€s already done that work in the community <br />before we do this. So my sense is for that reason, as well as archaeological reason, it€s <br />kind of premature for us to be granting a permit at this time. <br />MCKINNEY:Well, if I can address that. I think that the Department of Health, <br />and Mr. Alameda maybe you know better than I do, but we are required to have these <br />people and these positions. Now whether that€s Chris or me being the program director <br />or the clinical director, I mean that, it€s required to have that kind of professional staff. <br />We obviously have the experience. But what they do is kind of look at the nuts and bolts <br />of, you know, okay, you obviously have the credentials to operate a program like this. <br />And that€s really why we€re going this route, so that we are, so that everyone can feel <br />comfortable that that will be addressed. But I can€t hire all these people when the facility <br />is two years down the road. <br />GRAHAM:Yeah, but, I mean, my sense is not one of hiring but it€s the sense <br />of you having a couple of people that have done this kind of work in Hawaii that will <br />14 <br /> <br />