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know in that regard, when I received the letters from the Applicant, I forwarded those <br />letters to those buyers. It is more appropriate for those people who are going to be the <br />owners of those lands to make comments on the Applicant€s use of their parcels rather <br />than C. Brewer, who is in weeks away from not being an owner of the land. <br />My main reason for being here is regarding some of the comments that were made, or I <br />want to know what€s happening with Kaalaiki Road, because Kaalaiki Road is, in our <br />opinion, a government road. And as Mr. Silva stated, the Naalehu side is definitely not <br />paved, it€s not improved and it€s a bumpy, nasty road; and we€re not going to be around <br />to maintain it anymore. The bridge collapsed, and the bridge exists on County <br />government land; and I€m not about to repair a bridge on government land. <br />So we€ve done repairs to a crossing, but on our own land, so we can bypass that bridge. <br />But we get into that whole thing again, is that Kaalaiki Road is government and then at <br />timesit€sprivate.IthinkourCountyneedstostepupandmakethisagovernmentroad <br />and maintain this road as a government road, and provide services to all the landowners <br />that adjoin Kaalaiki Road. <br />GALDONES:Mr. Cross, I€m not going to talk about the road. But in terms of <br />archaeological sites and petroglyphs, the areas in there were once farmed as sugar cane <br />land? <br />CROSS:Okay. Mauka portion has pretty much always been out of cane, <br />never been in cane. There€s probably eucalyptus trees 50, 80 years old up there. Makai <br />side of Kaalaiki Road, at one time was in cane. Probably about 1940s it got removed <br />from cane because of shallow soil, and it got turned over to the ranch, Hawaiian Ranch. <br />So the jog in that property appears to have been done to include Waiubata Cave because <br />it€s -. You see that wide part, below there where the facility is going to be? Straight <br />down below that, yeah, right about there, that€s the cave. And if you€ve seen these <br />books, Kwiatkowski, and all these petroglyph books, one of, this is, it has been <br />photographed, and that€s the one with the long fingers, the enigma, petroglyphs. That€s <br />the cave. So it€s a very significant cave. There€s Maakaau cave is on Honuapo, on the <br />Naalehu side, but probably three quarters mile away. There€s a lot of caves in the area. <br />But, you know, I think there€s ways that you can protect the cave or make it a feature. I <br />don€t know, but it is important. <br />GALDONES:Thank you. Commissioners, any questions of Mr. Cross? <br />YUEN:I have a couple questions on the cave. How far does it go? How <br />far in does the cave go? <br />CROSS:Two hundred feet. <br />YUEN:Is there any projection mauka under this property that you know <br />of? Does it only go makai from this property? <br />22 <br /> <br />