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that OK, um, the problem is sometimes it becomes a tool to keep others out. I, not only us, it is a story – oh, I don’t want you to come fish over here – when I want to get my luau I got to your place and collect 30 uhu. But you can’t come over here to disturb uhu. You look at the rule making – there’s no biological sense – so what’s the point of closing an area cause you want continuation perennial, you want things to make up next generation – that’s really what the point is – right of \[unclear\] that is – and it’s the wrong assumption – I fought this with other guys – OK – close an area – you get big fat fish – cause they won’t give babies – there’s something called spill over – but that’s not true – you guys know – you see a pregnant pig in the mountain you know it’s not gonna hanau over there – it’s gonna be someplace else \[unclear\]. And this is why I think the \[unclear – sounds like nunuwai\] is where it all happens – this is the nursery brah – I remember many years worked with the \[unclear\] place on Maui with the taro guys… LT: In Hana. RN: Yeah, in, yeah, not, before Hana. There’s a peninsula over there look like Waiki. ?: Oh, that, yeah. RN: Well, anyway, but it was back there – you’re asking – are we gonna release more, yeah? I say, eh, how the more population that go? They no look in the ocean, they go look inside the river – oh, yeah, get moi \[unclear\] – I think we good this year. So those people knew how to estimate – you no go count fish \[unclear\] um, guys like snorkel or coral reef, you know, on nice warm day go count fish. You ever try count fish Hamakua? Good luck. \[Unclear\] Sorry but I don’t believe that. \[Unclear\] It’s a good idea to gather your data but not only gather your data but gather you into the group – that really is the key – OK – but other side of the story is you want to look on a bigger perspective – you no need one – you don’t only want the kai you want mauka, yeah, because of mauka – that’s what drives your system, OK, next time – sounds good to \[unclear\]. Well, anyway, let’s \[unclear\] the point I’m having is the key is, you want a sustainable stock – that’s really what you want, you know, you guys, hunters, you aren’t going to \[unclear\], you know, OK I’m gonna take this much, this is the ethics of most communities - take whatever you need – the whole idea – OK - next slide – OK – this is where – this is just generalized – coastal zone species – now I’m biased – talking about the mumu, the amaama, I’m talking about the kole and those things, OK, aholehole – I’m not talking about the uku or the \[unclear\] or the ono – these are different \[unclear\] fishes. I’m talking about coastal zone – what the locals fish, OK, again, aumakua is my \[unclear\]. I doubt \[unclear\] more human than dogs and animals based on millions of eggs – the idea there’s a chat happening – they’re gonna fertilize and the herd carries ‘em – then when they get into they use up the egg yolk and they come and they celebrate – they come down \[unclear\] – they sell ‘em to the buyer and they come into estuaries so there’s Kohole, there is Waipio, whether it’s Waimanu or any of those places they come in and they settle down – OK – so you look at Waiakea Pond in the back yard you see all the babies come in – sometimes they come back and so did the hinano \[unclear\] inside the mountain and so does the opai. Next slide – OK – thing is – it’s three general habitat, yeah - the reef – you guys that fish the reef – know the reef, spear fish you go hook \[unclear sounds like mabeta\] with the DLNR code how it works – Pelagic? The babies will drift with the marine plant. There it’s hard to sample. But when they come to the – they settle - it’s the estuary like what get hard, yeah? Yes. This is the keystone. This is the place, yeah – next slide – OK – this is – I took it off the Internet – forget about it – this \[unclear\] cast in science – next time – sorry about that – they look nice, eh? 23