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Merit Appeals Board <br />June 25, 2024 <br />So, this is bridging that gap so that it—so that they can get on that—their trajectory through the <br />Professional Trainee position or in some other positions. <br />CHR. CABANAS: But it's not a smooth process because at the end of the two years, do you <br />think HGEA is going to say, "Okay, the person finished the two-year program, had no job to go <br />to"—and HGEA loses that member. They're not going to be happy with that. And then, the <br />person can be employed by another employer in the private sector. You had County—see, that's <br />the difference between Workforce Development where Charlie worked—and where I worked in <br />the County, where you work in the County—it's still County funds. <br />They had federal funds. They had federal funds to train people for part of Workforce <br />Development, you see. The County is still dishing out money to train people. You're saying <br />going from BU3—but if the person is a member of public, they weren't in BU3. They were out <br />in the public. They're not a County employee. And they go they can yes, go into this BU3 <br />and try for BU13 but there's still no progression. You can lose somebody at two years using <br />County funding. I don't care if it's HR funding or another department, it's still County money. <br />And the County is not in a position to lose people after training them for two years that's my <br />concern. <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: And I hear you and I understand, but that's also happening throughout our <br />departments through regular positions where we're investing time in training people for all of our <br />open positions and then whether it's due to personal choices—sometimes personal circumstances <br />or sometimes people find positions in the private sector, move to a different stateso I hear you. <br />But we're already experiencing that in our normal positions that are filled and you can see later <br />when we discuss the results from—as part of my MAB goals you can see the turnover that the <br />County is facing or has dealt with just in general. <br />So, yeah, people are free to choose where they want to work and sometimes yes, so in this <br />case, it could be that we invest in two years of training and someone goes to another employer. <br />Ideally, after that investment—and that's why these this money was actually put into our <br />budget because the—as the County, we want to try and develop this new talent pipeline that <br />didn't exist before. <br />So, because right now, if you don't have the qualifications for the Professional Trainee, we're <br />not helping you to get that. You have to go and get that someplace else and then come back in <br />and see us later when you meet the requirements. <br />MS. MATHEWS: Did you pattern this off of something that already existed or several <br />somethings that existed? <br />MS. TOKIHIRO: No. This is <br />MS. MATHEWS: This is entirely <br />Page 19 <br />