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mandated to do this eradication, but it is possible to transition it under a new style of management. Discussed the palila count with him – that the unofficial count is somewhere at the 200. Not sure if that is the correct number. If so, it’s a catastrophe. Discussed coming up with a proposal for training hound dogs to hunt the cats on Mauna Kea. In addition, check and monitor and repair waterers. Basically, for GMAC to come up with a management plan. TWC: Tayson, District – 2, I like to hear that, yeah, with the game – game plan because it’s management, right, eradication has no where in management. I raise sheep growing up as well is like how I mentioned \[unclear\] UH was a – raising sheep just like what is happening on Mauna Kea – if you put a bunch of sheep in a pasture – a thriving pasture with just Wainaku grass they be thriving sheep out for X amount of years – they’ll see more than Wainaku grass – they’ll see your California grass take over, you’ll see random trees that popping up – a lot of invasive weeds – that’s what’s happening on Mauna Kea right now because there’s not control with the sheep. Is there any way that since he has that plan, right, I know it’s federally put in but can or is there a way to bring Sierra Club back up into that talk? This needs to stop, from the seventies to now – two hundred palila is catastrophe, right? So, why not let the sheep repopulate and see where that goes cause with all this fountain grass and the invasive weeds… it’s more than the palila – it’s the trees and the sheep is the one to control so I don’t know if that can be a part of a future talk with the Sierra Club or something? LT: Leomana – District – 3. We already voted last month about going a couple of times to the Leg and then testify and on these trips we can, we will visit these people again and then give them updates and, kind of go over what we’ve been brain storming to… BL: Brian, District – 4, yeah, I had a talk with Dave Smith about the goat waterers, being obviously non-existent, non-working with the full water tanks and I also complained about the bird waterers. He said, his people don’t communicate with him. And, you know, we had a discussion on the game birds. He asked me what my opinion was, and it was the tall grass, the birds can’t propagate and survive in that tall grass, we need to do something about the tall grass and, it’s back to the same thing, it’s quality habitat. I said is there some reason we can’t have food plots that would benefit the palila – do you guys even know if the palila would eat certain kinds of seeds – they are seed birds, but there’s some reason we can’t put food plots in that would benefit the game birds and, we discussed that and he was saying that it’s predators, predators, predators. And I said, habitat, habitat, habitat. So, we’ve had discussions about that, the waterers in June and July – the critical times. Ninety percent of the waterers I checked were non- functional, and then we have nothing – like I said – I actually went out hunting with the dogs all day – not one bird – in fourteen years I have never – the dogs were so depressed, but we went out last week and we put up 13 birds. So, it’s hit or miss – but 6