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Merit Appeals Board January 30, 2025 <br />CHR. CABANAS: Yes, okay, thanks. Okay, please proceed, Darwin. <br />MR. OKINAKA: Okay. So, going back to that —once the communication going back and forth <br />relating to that "relatively equal" the information came back to our office that "relatively <br />equal" should be considered to 5% of a score —within 5%. And that's where we should attribute <br />that percentage. And if someone is more senior, that 5% will bring them up in ranking, then they <br />would get —they should have preference, I guess, over —on ranking. <br />MR. HONG: Did you recalculate the ranking based on that 5%? <br />MR. OKINAKA: We did it, just to test it —but didn't complete it or utilize that for the final <br />ranking, `cause this all happened after the promotions were done, right. We completed our <br />recruitment assessment, got the scores, did the promotions, and upon the grievant coming in <br />the grievance coming in, that's when we went back and looked at all of this, and we provided <br />that information, at that point. <br />So, it was already completed and the 5%—it was —we didn't have that information in our hands, <br />at the moment when I completed the ranking. <br />MR. HONG: Would it be fair to say that even with the 5%, the grievant didn't outrank Jonah? <br />MS. TAVARES: Objection. Same objection as before. This is going into the merits of the <br />grievance and it is not appropriate for this hearing. <br />MR. HONG: The merits of the grievance no, he's talking about doing the ranking that he <br />redid the ranking based on what HR told him to do or adjust —so, my point being, is that even <br />after they did the rank the recalculation —Jonah was still Number one on the list or, if not, <br />Number one —certainly ahead of the grievant. So, that's it. That's my question. <br />MS. TAVARES: Again, this is going into the substance of the grievance. That's what he's <br />asking for. That's the bottom line. The remedy was reached and how that remedy was reached <br />and the details of the grievance, are not appropriate before this Board. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Well, I think when you submitted the "Exhibit B" it raised —it's like you're <br />putting information out there that leads to other questions. And then, the next thing should have <br />been, "Well, where is the final ranking sheet with all of the applicants and their scores and redact <br />the names" because this is, kind of, mis-leading. You're including their interview questions. <br />What's the purpose of it? And the scoring for each question. <br />You see, this is your exhibit, right? <br />MS. TAVARES: Yes. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay. So, what was the purpose of this exhibit? <br />Page 15 <br />