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Hawaii County Police Commissioner <br />Regular Session Minutes <br />June 18, 2004 <br />Page 17 <br />FRAZIER: What about striking " "any ?" <br />HARA: What's that? I'm sorry. <br />BERTSCH: If you put the word "attempt," it kind of opens it up again. Well, I <br />attempted not to be conflicting, but gosh, it just didn't happen. <br />DE SILVA: That's why it does bother me the way it is. I don't care if you reconsider it <br />or not. I also wouldn't object to the language and changing it by striking " "any" add <br />O'conflicts." I move to accept it the way it is just so that we can make some sort of a <br />decision. <br />BERTSCH: Second. <br />Carried unanimously. <br />HARA: c) There must be no self - dealing or any conduct of private ... <br />BERTSCH: I have objection to that. I think it's nefarious. <br />DE SILVA: Nefarious? <br />BERTSCH: Yes, sir. Because the way it's written, it says, "Any conduct of private <br />business or personal services between any commission member and the police <br />department." So is that to say that, Paul, I can't go mow your lawn? <br />DE SILVA: Yes, you can't. <br />BERTSCH: I cannot? <br />DE SILVA: No. I wouldn't let you mow my lawn. Seriously, no self - dealing of any <br />conduct of private business or personal services between any commission member. <br />What's wrong with that? There shouldn't be any self - dealing. <br />BERTSCH: So, I can't go and paint Dwight Manago's hotel? <br />DE SILVA: Dwight Mango isn't a policeman. It would be true if he were a policeman. <br />BERTSCH: Well, it says— <br />DE SILVA: Between any commission member and the police department. <br />BERTSCH: Personal services. Can you define personal services? <br />