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from the mainland will see a lot, and he says oh, I want to buy that lot. And they may buy <br />that lot from a picture on a real estate site. Okay, so then they grub it, and then they <br />contract out to somebody and they build a house on it. And then they sell their property <br />in Florida and they come here, they move into their home, and they're sitting on the back <br />veranda, and they're looking out and they see some guy living in a tent. Or they see some <br />house that's close to their property and they go, well, that looks like an illegal structure. <br />And then they file a complaint, all right. So then we have now where we have this <br />established ohana for 15, 20 years because some of these people have lived in tents for <br />a long time. Some of these people have lived in these illegal structures for a long time. <br />And now we have a newcomer coming in, and they set up their place, but they don't like <br />their environment anymore. And now they want the environment changed to what they <br />find suitable. So it's like we're allowing outside influence to come in and to change our <br />ohana, and so is one of the solutions to that to establish Type -II housing, where now <br />there's this architecturally approved structure? It may not look like this house over here, <br />but at least it's a permitted structure and the individual could still live on his land and be <br />within the county permits. So I would it may not be what this person wants to see next <br />door, but it may be something that is more acceptable to them when they find out that oh, <br />okay, well, it's not exactly what I wanted. I guess I'll have to plant some podocarpus <br />there or something so I don't see it. I think those issues we'll just have to hammer them <br />out a little more in detail, because people may disagree with 120 square feet, because <br />right now the Building Code says 500 square feet. <br />MATSUDA: What happens say you have a permitted structure at 120 square feet and <br />they want to extend it another 40 square feet? Now, do you have to apply for another <br />building permit for that additional 40 square feet? <br />LEONARD: Yes, you would. Yeah. But you wouldn't do 40 square feet. So the idea <br />here that I had in design possibilities is that you would design these homes 120 square <br />foot, that's Module A. 100 square feet, another 120, that's Module B. Maybe a 200 <br />square foot module is C. <br />MATSUDA: Right, right. <br />LEONARD: So a person who's very limited on income could at least get into a structure, <br />and then later on when he says let's build a bedroom now, let's add some more. And <br />then these come together and are connected very economically, right. So it's easy to put <br />them together. Okay. <br />And I'm already on my last one? Wow, okay. Number 8, beneficial suggestion program. <br />I come from the federal government. I worked for the federal government for 32 years, <br />and we had a beneficial suggestion program. And I loved it, because I came up with lots <br />of ideas and implemented things. And I actually got some nice paychecks from that. But <br />what it does, it really instills people to look at their processes, their environment, and say <br />is there a way of doing things better? And the example I gave in here is that you go out, <br />the county is going to buy a bunch of SUVs, and so they go buy these big Ford Explorers <br />and they're $24,000. And let's say we're going to buy ten of them. But geez, here's this <br />other SUV over here, four -wheel drive. It's $16, 000, and it basically accomplishes the <br />same purpose. So why don't we buy those? That saves the county $160,000 or <br />16 <br />