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CHR. SIRACUSA: Is there any discussion? Mike. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: I think, because of the one provision in the Ordinance about taking into account growth and so forth, that this time around, we should start with the northern boundary of Paradise Park and the northern boundary of Hawaiian Acres, and draw two districts in Puna on either side of Highway 130. The population is there to create two districts and work around the island clockwise from those two. CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, that is one way that we could do it that is interesting. Does any one else have any other ideas about geographical starting points? MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA: Just a point of clarification on Mike's point. Are we starting at the Puna border? Is that what IÓm hearing, the Puna border, between Puna and Hilo, and moving clockwise? We are going to start in Puna, so the Puna border? MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Not the Puna border, because the Puna border is in the middle where there are no people. In terms of the census, the people really start at Paradise Park and Hawaiian Acres. MR. MELROSE: Just a point of conversation. I donÓt know what you had in m brought up--put this on the agenda--because we are really not making a decision on this topic today. I think as it happened ten years ago, was you lay out a series of different potential starting points, and you do the map accordingly. From that, we get input as to what the implications of those are. So, discussing a specific one today---I think we should be talking about starting points, and having that conversation about when we actually get the data in front of us. And then, come up with a target number. I think you guys had nine, or so, the first time you went out ten years ago, or, I donÓt know what the number was. MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA: Nine Council Districts, so you had nine holes to fill. MR. MELROSE: Right, but the number of maps is what I was thinking of. How many maps did you produce when you went the first circle? MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA: It was like five maps; we started with nine maps, picking several starting points within the nine maps. So thatÓs what I thought this thing would be, just for the Commission to discuss potential starting points. And, I would think today we would discuss nine starting points. CHR. SIRACUSA: And that is exactly what I had in mind when I asked for it to be put on the agenda. I wanted to find out if anyone had any ideas about geographical starting points; suggestions for those. I certainly have my suggestions, and IÓm sure that the other Commissioners have theirs. I thought we would start out by throwing our ideas out on the table. That is the first step to having a discussion. 31