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CHAIR: You want to do this in Executive Session? Do you want to do this in <br />Executive Session? <br />GANIGAN: Yes. <br />CHAIR: Can you state your purpose for doing that? I mean, what is your feelings so we <br />know <br />GANIGAN: could get in the papers. <br />CHAIR: Pardon me? <br />GANIGAN: It's kind of like a serious matter, because it's going to go to the newspaper. <br />CHAIR: The newspapers are not here, <br />GANIGAN: <br />CHAIR: There are no members of the press here. Is there a member of the press here? <br />So keep it out of the papers, is that your overriding issue? <br />GANIGAN? Huh? <br />CHAIR: Is that the overriding issue —you just don't want this broadcast in the press? I <br />mean, I can understand that. <br />GANIGAN: I don't think the Mayor wants it to go in the press. This is an issue about how <br />he owns his own company, Mr. Hiram Keliikoa. His own company. He takes <br />County workers, that it's his regular job to train County workers, he's going on <br />work—on off - working times, County workers are paying for their training, <br />when they should begetting it for free. That's his job, but he's charging them, <br />and then they're coming back to work and he's just passing them because he <br />was their trainer, and they're by- passing all the senior workers. They're <br />coming back to work and by- passing everybody. <br />CHAIR: Can you speak for any specific against Mr. Keliikoa? <br />GANIGAN: Huh? <br />CHAIR: Your grievance is against Mr. Keliikoa? <br />GANIGAN: Yeah, and about rigging promotions, because that's where he <br />CHAIR: - -but two issues. First of all he's got an inside deal here, I guess is what you're <br />suggesting- <br />GANIGAN: - -Yeah. <br />26 <br />