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CHAIR: He's got a sweetheart deal where he can control <br />GANIGAN: Yeah, because then County has to reimburse the guys that he charged, you <br />know, and that's his regular job. <br />CHAIR: Tell us more about your j ob, so we understand what it is you do. <br />KAMELAMELA: Before we proceed, I haven't heard anything from him as to why he wants to <br />keep this closed. <br />CHAIR: Yeah, well I'm still trying —we're still in open session, so I'm hoping <br />be up and up about this and above board, because, I mean that's <br />where —it's something that could be issue. It should be an issue, it should be <br />heard in open session, but if you have some reason why you feel this would <br />come back to be injurious to you <br />GANIGAN: I've been —it's been already addressed through upper heads of the County. <br />There's been an investigation. I'm actually the union steward for Hamakua <br />baseyard for the UPW. So there's been—they've been let known at what is <br />going on, that he's been training County workers. I think that's unethical. <br />You can't do that. <br />CHAIR: The Board has to petition, Mr. Ganigan. Have you seen that <br />petition? Just take a second and look at that, if you haven't, and make sure <br />we're on the same sheet of music you're on. <br />GANIGAN: I also have names of people that have been by- passed. <br />PKO: Okay, so before we—if there is no motion to close the meeting, then we can <br />proceed with the hearing as is. <br />CHAIR: Well, we're open to it, you know, but <br />GANIGAN: - -You can just leave it open if you feel like that— <br />CHAIR: All right <br />GANIGAN: - -I don't care. <br />CHAIR: And you're okay with it? <br />KI: I have a question. <br />KAMELAMELA: Before we begin, I think it would be better to leave it open than closed, but I <br />talked to Hiram Keliikoa to ask him whether he wanted to have it closed. He <br />said no. He wants it to be open. Why don't you come here? <br />27 <br />