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to do that, that's fine, but he should have some reading of it, too. What does <br />the Board want to do in a case like this? <br />PKO: I think to me that this is just very sketchy, what he's written, but he does allege <br />two violations of the Ethics Code. So if he can focus his attention at least to <br />state what he believes the ethical violation is, at least the Board needs to hear <br />that and then determine whether it is or is not in their jurisdiction and purview. <br />But I don't know if we can make a decision just on this paper here. <br />CHAIR: Yeah, well, that's pretty much where I'm going with this. I don't know how <br />the rest of the Board on that subject—is being overruled . Let me <br />finish, Mr. Kamelamela. I personally feel like we should address this above <br />board, openly. We may find then that we're clearly out of our purview, over <br />our heads, where it may be. But we do have two ethical charges here that we <br />should—within the confines of . So we all have the Code of Ethics <br />in front of us, we've been prepared, and we know what this specifically <br />pertains to, and we would like to hear from both. <br />KAMELAMELA: Okay, and that's fine. But Chair, the way that you characterized, as you said <br />already, tells me —well, , you characterized it as being swept <br />under the rug, nepotism. But now I'm wondering, can you be fair to Hiram <br />here? <br />CHAIR: Well I certainly think so, personally. But we have other votes here, and if I <br />weren't fair, I'm sure I'd be clearly overruled <br />KAMELAMELA: - -No, but, see that's not my concern because at the beginning, I'm getting the <br />sense already, that maybe what Hiram's doing is nepotism. Maybe what <br />Hiram's doing—or things are being swept under the rug, and you know, that <br />kind of comment itself concerns— <br />CHAIR: - -I have no predisposition against your client, Mr. Keliikoa. I'm wide open to <br />hearing this along with the other members of the Board, and to hearing the <br />charges. It's perhaps an unfortunate choice of words, if I said if this is <br />something going on County government, nepotism, I wasn't speaking <br />specifically to you, to this issue, to this case at all. Basically I'm fair and <br />impartial, I truly am. I have no knowledge of this other than what I see on this <br />sketchy complaint, and I really want to hear what Mr. Keliikoa has to say as <br />well as yourself, and Mr. Jose, which he probably has some input to make <br />here, too. How do the other members of the Board feel about this? Do we <br />want to proceed with this, or just defer- <br />WJ: - -Well, I'd like to address the two complaints brought forth by Mr. Ganigan. <br />for myself, and I want to see what this complaint is about. <br />PKO: Mr. Kamelamela, are you satisfied with Mr. Williams' response? We do have <br />a rule on asking for him to be disqualified, which if he doesn't respond to, the <br />29 <br />