2005-11-09 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular mc

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Board members have to vote on it, so I want to know if you're formally raising that or not. KAMELAMELA: Well I raised it as an issue, but I've got to talk to Hiram first. Can I talk to Hiram? CHAIR: Sure. KAMELAMELA: Because I'm not the one he's . Personally, since he came out and said you know, bad choice of wordsI can live with that. Whether Hiram can live with that, I don't know. CHAIR: Do you want to take a few minutes? PKO: Yeah, I think it's time for a break, Mary has to -- CHAIR: Okay let's take a break. How much time do you need, Mr. Kamelamela, five, ten minutes? KAMELAMELA: Five minutes. CHAIR: Five minutes. Take a five - minute break. (Meeting broke from 11:25 a.m. to 11:33 a.m) CHAIR: So we're all back break, and any challenges to present, or comments? KAMELAMELA: I talked to my client and So right now he's comfortable having you stay here. However, because of what occurred, about what Ganigan's trying to get this Board for, we're going to ask that the hearing be closed, because it does get into personnel matters, and to me, if it sounds like that's what he's going to do, I would rather keep things pretty clean so that in some way we don't violate any privacy interests of potential names that he might throw out. I'm going to try my best to keep names out, but he seems to have been throwing a potential net trying to bring other people in here, which —the complaint is only directed at Mr. Keliikoa and Harry Jose, but I'm going to ask that we close it. CHAIR: Does that mean we go to executive session PKO: I want you to state what the personal interests, personal matters and privacy interests involved are. KAMELAMELA: The personal matters is as he stated, that there is a grievance and arbitration that is . It's collective bargaining agreement, and to us anything dealing with the CBA is confidential. Those kinds of things shouldn't be let 30