2005-11-09 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular mc

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out for consumption by the public. And, I'm just making a motion —the Board can decide whether it's good enough or not. CHAIR: All I can say as Chair is, I concur on this issue, to go into executive session. Essentially if there are any other aspersions made and so on, it may or may not be factual based, so GANIGAN: - -I'm not making any allegations right now, or bringing out any names. I'm keeping that name secure, because if you want you can just subpoena the UPW. They've got all the information. You can subpoena them, take it from there. And then I don't need to say anything. You can just go straight to the UPW and subpoena them. CHAIR: Do you wish to proceed with this in the closed session yourself? GANIGAN: Or we can just take it larger, and just subpoena the UPW, then I don't even have to speak. This thing has been investigated for a long time, this allegations that I'm saying. It's not only me in this thing. CHAIR: Do you want to proceed? GANIGAN: Yeah. PKO: Okay, it's not up to them to ask and you automatically do it. You have to make an affirmative finding that personal matters affecting the privacy of an individual be considered. So that's why I asked Mr. Kamelamela to state what the personal matters and the privacy matters were, and Mr. Ganigan earlier. CHAIR: I heard them. I heard them state them —they satisfied my interests. How do you feel WJ: I'm not totally sure Mr. Ganigan wants this in executive session or open session. So could you state for the record. GANIGAN: Yeah, leave it open. It doesn't matter to me. KAMELAMELA: But we're making the request, and it has to do with a personnel matter, because now the allegation —you know, he's the shop steward, working with UPW, and there's arbitration matters. To me that's all personnel matters that- PKO: -- Personal matters. Personal, not personnel. KAMELAMELA: Personnel, personal. But it's personal because it has to do with him, who is PKO: - -I'm just trying to articulate that -- 31