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Nakamura was on the list before me. I found that out, so I went on my own and I <br />hired a lady named Edda, and she has a trucking business in Kona. She trained <br />me, since a promotion was coming up at the end of the year and I was trying for <br />that, so I before the promotion came up, and I was denied <br />because they said I wasn't trained by a certified trainer. So they finally audited <br />me, and I didn't pass the audit trained by the County of Hawaii. <br />KK: And Mr. Keliikoa is the person that does the audit? <br />CAMBRA: Yeah, he does the auditing. He audited and I didn't pass, and then he trained me. <br />So what I'm getting at as to the violation, is he trains people on the outside—he <br />has a training, trucking business that he trains people —and he works for the <br />County. He's a trainer. He audits and promotions. I went on the <br />outside but I had them train me, because I didn't pass, so I guess the time span, of <br />six, eight months- <br />KK: - -You went on the outside to do what? <br />CAMBRA: To get my <br />KK: - -your training- <br />CAMBRA: -- license. So I was the senior person in the baseyard. So I just wanted to try and <br />get, see if I could get ready for the upcoming promotion. But what I'm saying, <br />you know, basically it comes down to is, he's a trainer for the County Roads, he <br />do auditing, performance tests, and all that, prior to getting hired. I went on my <br />own. The guy that got the j ob over me, he got his training through Hiram, so <br />what I'm saying like, the conflict is, he got his job and I only got the <br />performance test, the interviews and all that. So if this was an ethical violation <br />and it didn't happen that way —the union has filed a grievance, and they won <br />not won, I think there's a settlement agreement. And part of the settlement is <br />KAMELAMELA: -- Again, we've been letting him talk about employment issues, but the fact <br />that there has been a settlement with the union doesn't play here, because the <br />Board of Ethics is not here to decide how management is to run the Department. <br />just want to really focus in on ethical violation only, and that's all. <br />AL: I have a question, just to be clear in my mind. Mr. Keliikoa is a County trainer - <br />understand it's like part of the time he's a County trainer and part of the time he <br />does auditing, testing? <br />KAMELAMELA: He doesn't do audits now. <br />AL: But at the time of this— what's the question - -he did audit and <br />KAMELAMELA: Prior to June, 2005. <br />16 <br />