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KK: Any comments or questions? The more I hear of this, the more I feel that this is <br />an in -house problem which is not germane to an ethics board hearing. And if we <br />delve any further into the evidence, we'd be getting into areas that are not, really <br />not our concern. This is my own personal opinion, but I don't know, the way I <br />look at it, it seems like we have to show that Mr. Keliikoa did in fact use his <br />personal training as a means to deny, you know, non - students a chance at <br />promotion. <br />AL: Karl, I think there is also, isn't there, a portion that says appearance, to avoid the <br />appearance of conflict. And while we don't have to accuse somebody of a <br />conflict of interest, we do have to look if there is an appearance to the community, <br />no—no appearance of conflict? <br />KK: No, I'm just stating my own opinion. No problem. <br />GILMAN: I've been told by a certain person who got that promotion, before he got <br />promoted, and when he was a Laborer below me, and when he took the next step <br />forward, which was operating a grass cutters and stuff, and at that time he used to <br />come up to me and tell me <br />KAMELAMELA: - -Just for the record, I'm going to object to this hearsay, because like there's <br />no way to - -we can even, you know, confront this person. <br />AL: Yes. <br />KAMELAMELA: And I don't mind if they base it on their own experience, but when theyI <br />think I'm . But if they're going to actually say what <br />this person says or what that person did, I don't know —it's just confusing the <br />issue. <br />KK: Well I tend to agree with you. You must remember, you're a professional lawyer, <br />and they are lay people as far as law is concerned. I understand where you're <br />coming from, but can we hear him a little bit more and follow your <br />line of thinking. <br />GILMAN: That certain person who got promoted two times over me, he used to come to me <br />and tell me to my face, I'm going to get that position and what are you going to <br />do about it? And more than twice do that. I used to get upset with <br />him. I just put my head down and I walk away. So if this is a chance for me to do <br />something about it, and when I go back and if he ever comes to me and tells me, <br />what did you do this for, all I'm going to say is, remember what you used to <br />always tell me, what I'm going to do about it? So now I'm taking action. I'm <br />doing something about it. I just —you know, it really ripped me apart when every <br />time he used to always come to me and tell me, what you going to do about it? <br />It's just like he's taunting me. <br />IR <br />
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