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KAMELAMELA: In fact, he never solicited his business to you? <br />GILMAN: Tome personally, no. But I just knew that's his business. Because he bought the <br />truck from Ada, or Ida. This lady who used to do it in Kona. And I know her <br />daughter personally. <br />KK: Okay, to get things clear in my mind —I've been hearing and not hearing some <br />things, so, Mr. Cambra and Mr. Gilman, you are <br />KAMELAMELA: -- Actually, I just finished Gilman, because I still have questions for Cambra. <br />KK: What is that? <br />KAMELAMELA: I still have some questions for Mr. Cambra. <br />KK: Okay, shoot. <br />KAMELAMELA: I finished my questions with Mr. Gilman. <br />KK: All right, go ahead. <br />KAMELAMELA: Mr. Cambra, who told you that Ada is that right, was not <br />training —was not certified? <br />CAMBRA: I got a letter from, I guess Civil Service, with the , reason deniedI <br />don't have the letter with me—reason denied was I have a speeding ticket and I <br />wasn't trained by one certified trainer. <br />KAMELAMELA: And in that letter from Civil Service- <br />CAMBRA: - -I guess. <br />KAMELAMELA: - -from Civil Service, did the letter state that she was not a certified state <br />trainer, <br />CAMBRA: No. <br />KAMELAMELA: But this is a letter you got from Civil Service, right? <br />CAMBRA: Civil Service. <br />KAMELAMELA: It's not a letter that you got from Stanley Nakasone. <br />CAMBRA: No. <br />KAMELAMELA: It's not a letter that you got from Hiram Keliikoa. <br />CAMBRA: No. <br />23 <br />