2007-07-11 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular Session

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payments, so they were trying to call the car company to give up one, or consolidate, I am not clear. But she sent Gwen out early from work —she gets to work early, and went to take pictures of the truck so they can come back and send it to the bank and whatever. I submitted that to —as an exhibit. Lum: I have a question. Ms. Hale, this incident that you just mentioned. You did mention that she comes to work early, so possibly that was on her own time before her office hours started, or was it after office hours started do you think that she went out to take those photographs? Hale: It was during office time. Lum: Thank you. Chair: Ms. Sharpless? Sharpless: Yes. I need clarification. This Exhibit 19 that we got, that you claim is an example of doing campaign work at the office. What about this tells me that this is campaign work? Hale: I recognize it to be campaign work because if you look, it came as an entirety. It was torn out of the same book, and you would have to see the original to know that. But, there was —one would have to know it because I was co -chair and I recognized the names. If you look, they were all together, along with a whole stack of things and the listing of names. And there were names like Linda Callahan. She sits on our committee. You are looking at the typed version. I am looking at any page at this point, I just pulled one out. Desmon Antone, Desmon Haumea, he is a personal friend also, helped us in the campaign. Julia Paul — they're all typed, these were typed from, I guess, from another piece of paper. And if you notice, some of these are handwritten, a lot of it, and they were together in the envelope. Sharpless: Okay, my follow -up question is, were these —was this Exhibit 19 submitted in any way to indicate the quality, or what you deemed to be the quality, of work for Ms. Gwen? Hale: Yes. Sharpless: Could you explain that, please? Hale: Well, you need to have a quality of work. This is the quality of work that she has done in our office. You know, why would it be in the office, and at her computer typing? We had no reason to have this campaign material in our offices. Sharpless: Is there a particular rule that campaign material cannot even be present? Hale: Okay, that's a good question, because behind me sits Helene Hale. We both were —I worked with her as a legislative office manager. Helene knows and I 20