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Mr. Melrose moved to close file on COMM. 42. Seconded by Mr. Carvalho. MR. KANUHA: Does anyone have suggestions on how we should start this discussion? Should we start with Plan 2, or should we start with Plan 20? CHR. SIRACUSA: We might want to start with the ones that came in after our last meeting, that we haven't discussed at all yet. MR. KANUHA: Thank you, Rene". CHR. SIRACUSA: I believe that was Plan -3 8 and Plan -3 9. MR. KANUHA: We have a testifier coming up to speak. Please state your name and what agenda item you are testifying for. ANDY ARCHIBALD (At this time Andy Archibald, came forward to address members of the Commission.) MR. ARCHIBALD: My name is Andy Archibald; I am just making a comment on the effort you folks are engaged in. As a graduate of U.H. in 2009 with a degree in Political Science, and working directly under Mr. Melrose's mom, I wanted to bring a concern to you that I share with my students at Kealakehe High School routinely. Their vote for President doesn't count, because the Electoral College and the Supreme Court have decided every Presidential election for the last 200 years. Real democracy starts in local districts, where you elect your County Council and your State Assembly. That is where direct democracy occurs. So, no matter what you folks do, you are going to violently annoy somebody. You are going to be threatened, yelled at, cursed, and called names. I sincerely hope that when you are done, the people who are cursing you are the people who are trying to disenfranchise the voters of this island; especially the district of Puna, which is not only the fastest growing area on this island, but in the State, and by percentage, the Western United States. These people need to know that they are participants in direct democracy, and you hold their votes in your hand. I wish you all the luck in the world, I hope you have fortitude, because you are dealing with direct democracy at the grassroots level and may indeed be the people who decide whether the voters come out for future elections. Thank you for your time. MR. KANUHA: Thank you for your testimony. Shyla, are you almost ready? Rene, I'm sorry, which map did you want to start with? CHR. SIRACUSA: Well, last time, Plan 38 came in too late for us, so we haven't discussed Plan -3 8 or either variant of Plan -3 9. MR. KANUHA: Yes, I think we should start where we left off, and what we have on our agenda first. So I think we should start with Plan_20 and then move on. 11