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CHR. SIRACUSA: My recollection is that we already discussed Plan _20 and some of those, but we have never discussed Plan-3 8 or 39, so we should start with those and then we can always back track. MR. KANUHA: Rene, I don't think we discussed Plan 20 either. I don't think we discussed any of these actually; Plan_20 through Plan-39. These are all new plans. CHR. SIRACUSA: It's your call, you are the Chair. MR. KANUHA: Commission, I think we are going to start with Plan _20, because we haven't discussed any of these plans yet. Plan _20, we haven't discussed; Plan _21, 22, and 23, we were working on, so we will start with the newest one, Plan_20. Any comments on Plan_20, I think that's up on the screen for us to see. Review and Discuss Plan 20. MR. MELROSE: Shyla, can you give us the statistics table? MR. KANUHA: Hilo and Waimea, you can see the maps, can't you? MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: Yes, we can see them. MR. MELROSE: So Districts 2 and 3 are actually over our maximum limit; but let's just see what the principle of this one was. It looks like they included Waimea as a total unit up to Lakeland. This is also one that does this -- several of these new maps do this - -wrap around of District I. to encircle two districts in Hilo. To me, I don't believe we can do that. I don't think there is an access road - - -Can you pull this up right into the corner by Haihai Street? See how the district goes all around Hilo? I don't know why they did that. There are a couple of things that are a lot more egregious about this one. We would definitely want to amend that because we wouldn't want to create that odd boundary there. In Puna there are two districts. CHR. SIRACUSA: I don't see it as two Puna districts, what I see is that there is one Puna district, District 5, and the second Puna district; half of it has gone to District 6 and the other has gone into District 4 in Hilo. I see Puna having only one real district here. MR. MELROSE: Not this one. I believe District 4 is entirely in the jurisdiction of Puna. District 6 definitely encroaches, but one way or the other, there needs to be some encroachment, because there are too many votes in Puna. But there are two clear total Puna votes in this one. I would suggest that this plan is one that we can learn from, but by its nature, it exceeds the limitations in two districts. So it is not likely one we would want to take to public hearings if it doesn't conform. MR. KANUHA: I agree. Does anyone else have a comment? 12