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CHR. SIRACUSA: Let's see. Shyla, can you try and put Paradise Park into District 5? <br />That's not going to work, because then District 4 has too few; unless we grab Ainaloa, or <br />something like that to bring up the numbers again. <br />MR. MELROSE: That's the other change, is to move Ainaloa into the lower one. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Let's try again putting Hawaiian Paradise Park into District 5 and then <br />putting Ainaloa into District 4. Put that into District 5, because that is the Shower Drive <br />portion of Paradise Park there. Now, go down to Ainaloa and put that into - - -Oh, it already <br />is in District 4. It's not going to work. It's not going to work; we tried. The numbers just <br />don't work, so let's go back to Draft Plan—B. Can we zoom in now on the Pahoa area? <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Let me ask a couple of questions before we start messing <br />around with maps. Can we make some decisions about communities and what we want to <br />do? Are we committed to putting Waikoloa in District 9? Are we committed to splitting <br />certain communities, and not splitting others? If we decide that, it will make drawing the <br />maps a whole lot easier. <br />MS. POINDEXTER: I want to jump in real quick. We heard a lot of testimony about <br />keeping the commonality of communities together. Even with Pete Hoffmann saying we <br />are responsible to change the politics for the next years; and this is a political thing that we <br />are dealing with, we cannot run away from that. But I want to focus back to what Zendo <br />said; working together. So if you keep the common interests of communities together; like <br />I see the Hamakua district not going into Hilo because, from the Wailuku River out, the <br />commonalities there along that coastline is Ag. So, the decision was, do you move into <br />Hilo and disrupt that, or do you move further into Waimea, who has more things in <br />common with that whole area? And I understand one of the testifiers saying that the <br />Councilman from District 1 never came up to Waimea, when Waimea was in it, but now, if <br />we grow Waimea more into it, because we need to grow; I would prefer growing into a <br />place that is more common, which we talked about last week. And we decided moving <br />more into Puanani, which is still the countryside of Waimea. Because, Waimea, once you <br />get into the downtown, and the dry side, then you are talking about very expensive <br />property. They have more in common with Waikoloa and Puako. That is where I am <br />leading, so I want to make sure that we look at the commonalities of the communities and <br />working together, because Waimea can have a strong voice; the people have the power. <br />Now you are going to get more people power in Waimea in District 1; so it forces the <br />District 1 County Council to work with District 9 County Council, and work together. We <br />are responsible for the next ten years of creating that type of politics. And what we have <br />got to pursue is the people power; so I want to say that what we were talking about with <br />District 1 and District 9, about commonalities, I want to go with that. I understand we are <br />going to have to split some communities, but that is just a line; we are not actually really <br />splitting a community. Like what was said earlier, we are going to work together. <br />MR. CARVALHO: Okay, I understand that, Val. We have this whole bunch of people, <br />like you say, that have more common interests; which is true, with the Ag part of it, the <br />country part of Waimea, the east side. But that is Waimea. So we are talking about trying <br />23 <br />