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MR. MIDDLESWORTH: I wasn't addressing it to either plan. I was addressing it to us, in <br />terms of what we think about splitting communities and which community ought to be <br />split. <br />MR. MELROSE: My point is that we have two alternatives on the table, and those choices, <br />we can clarify those two different choices very clearly in the two alternatives. When we <br />get that done, then we can decide which one do we want to split. But I think we have to <br />take two different approaches to the problem. We have got two on the table, let's just <br />refine those two alternatives, and that's what I hope we do today. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Can I ask us to focus, and now look at this map and Shyla, that part <br />between Kalapana and the boundary with District 4; there are not too many people there. I <br />think we can put that into District 4. Can you check that out? That is too many. It just <br />seems so ridiculous to have Kalapana in the same district as upper Puna. You can undo <br />there Shyla, it doesn't work. <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Bring up Plan_A and look at the Puna split there. <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: May I have a point of personal privilege while Shyla is getting <br />the maps out. I just want - - -I don't know if you wrote down comments while the people <br />were testifying, but there were several that, I want to be sure, that if you agree, keep that in <br />your minds, and I think we can make the process go quicker. One was the ending <br />statement from Zendo Kern. I want all of you to just keep that in the back of your minds, <br />about us being together. If can, can; if no can, no can. That's what I got from his thing. <br />He said he used Henry Ford; I use Verna, because the outcome is the same. If can, can; if <br />no can, no can. Then also, the statement was made, what is best for the most people. So, <br />that is what I think this body is going to have to do; what is made best for the most people. <br />I understand unique issues; I would beg to differ with one individual who said one of the <br />issues was the donkeys in Waikoloa. I was born and raised on this island; the donkeys in <br />Waikoloa were called Kona Nightingales. So, I don't want to change any of that dynamics, <br />that's the dynamics of the donkeys in Waikoloa. It is not a Waikoloa donkey, it is a Kona <br />donkey. It is a Kona Nightingale. So that is not good. <br />And I say that, just to bring humor to this thing. Without it, I worked with these eight <br />people over the last months, and as we reach the end it is beginning to get kind of testy. <br />We are all looking at each other testy. So I want to make sure that we do it. However, if <br />we as a body keep those few things that the public made input on, I think we can get <br />through this project. We have gotten 40 some odd maps down to two that we are kind of <br />seriously working at, with the respect to having to split, so let's go and see what we can do <br />for the most people and if can, can; and if no can, no can. <br />MS. POINDEXTER: I just want to say one thing to Joe. I'm not siding with you; Jeff said <br />I should dance with you. So I am going to dance with you and not going to argue with you. <br />I am going to dance with you. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Very good. <br />25 <br />
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