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MR. KAHUL I apologize. I just want to reassure, at least this Commission; I am in full support of keeping communities intact as one of our objectives. Having said that, and having heard the testimony of those that were present at the last several meetings, Puako, it is my preference, and I think wholly represented by the testimony, that Puako and Waikoloa communities stay with District 9. And that would be my ultimate preference, and then if we go south, and Dru and I have kind of in the past discussed how those boundaries will equal out. I think we have got the population base along our boundaries to make that equitable. So, with that said, I just want to again, reiterate that we keep those communities of interest together. Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, thank you. We have a map in front of us. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: This is Plan—A. I asked her to put it up so we could look at the Puna configuration on this one. CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, let's look at that Puna configuration. That would be --- Shyla, if you can zoom in to that interface at the bottom of Leilani. District 4 can use more numbers there. What if you added from the northern most tip and started adding in to District 4? Go upward and to your right. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: I'm not sure why you want to do that, Rene. All of Puna is - - -I mean these are two Puna districts. The one with the smaller number is the one that is going to grow the most in the next ten years. CHR. SIRACUSA: We don't know that for sure; that is an assumption. People in Puna would like to see the most number of Puna people in a Puna district. That is what I am trying to do. I'm trying to see if we can max out that number as much as possible. If we take some from District 5, we can still add more to District 4 here. MR. MELROSE: You can do that, but you end up splitting the community of Opihikao, because you have got people in Opihikao living on two sides of that road. But that's the aligning road. The good thing about that straight line is that there really is no population on either side. But this is really more your call. I am more interested in what we do with the Kea`au core, and how we respond to the Kea`au question. CHR. SIRACUSA: What I am trying to do, is if I can take some from down here from District 5 and put them into District 4, that lowers the number in 5 and when we get up towards Kea`au we will have some flexibility to do some moving around. That is what I am trying to do here. Can we see what else we can get in there without overloading? That almost vertical line is Highway 130 and we want to get Kalapana included. Everything else is covered with lava. MR. MELROSE: Are those other little ones at the end populated? 26