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has to do about the perception of that. I'd be interested in hearing <br /> your comments on that. <br /> Mr. Kanuha: Well again I explained that... <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Could you please turn on your microphone. <br /> Mr. Kanuha: On. Yes it's on. The light goes on and off. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: The light. <br /> Mr. Kanuha: You know I explained previously that at no point of me going to <br /> that meeting were they trying to influence me on making these <br /> bills. Again, the bills were already created prior to me going to <br /> this meeting. So I don't know how I can better explain the <br /> perception that. It's hard to explain perception when there's <br /> perception out there. <br /> Mr. Adams: Perception's the business that we're in on this Board though. You <br /> would....I mean you especially would understand that. When you <br /> say that the bill was formulated, I want to make sure I'm clear on <br /> this. It had not yet, it may have been on somebody's computer, <br /> maybe on their hard drive in final form but it had not yet been <br /> presented to the Board or any Committees or Board. Is that right? <br /> Mr. Kanuha: No. <br /> Mr. Adams: That's not right? <br /> Mr. Kanuha: It didn't show up in front of the County Council until a specific <br /> time, I don't know exactly what date that was. <br /> Mr. Adams: Okay. I've already said that so...the other question that I have for <br /> Mr. Revell is in your petition you...the petition itself addresses <br /> Chair Kanuha but also the Coalition for Tobacco Free Hawai`i as <br /> that correct? <br /> Mr. Revell: Absolutely. <br /> Mr. Adams: Do we have anyone here from Tobacco Free Hawai`i? As I take a <br /> look, when I take a look at your petition, it appears to me that the <br /> things that...the items that you are addressing are items that we <br /> covered in our previous petition with you. Would you care to <br /> disabuse me of that notion, is there something in addition that you <br /> 19 <br />