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Page 19 <br />1 low pay of corp. counsel versus the other islands. <br />2 And I think our corp. counsel -- like from Kauai, <br />3 for example, Kaua'i's corp. counsel is higher than ours. And <br />4 think our corp. counsel does a lot. At least they should be <br />5 the same. <br />6 CHR. ONO: Mr. Pavao, I believe within this folder <br />7 here is a -- <br />8 MR. PAVAO: Yeah. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. I saw <br />9 that. But that's really confusing. What I wanted to see <br />10 was position, same position across, with comparable pays. I <br />11 looked at that one, and it's kind of confusing. If staff <br />12 could prepare something a little bit more simple, with <br />13 similar positions listed across. <br />14 MR. FRATINARDO: I have a question for the Chair, <br />15 Mr. Ono. So I'm a -- if it's delegated to me, I'll do -- so <br />16 I'm all about delegation, so -- and creating what you were <br />17 speaking about earlier. We need to delegate a permitted <br />18 action group to be the people that are going to be <br />19 approaching the separate finance departments in each <br />20 division. <br />21 So I think Mr. Pavao, it's something Mr. Pavao <br />22 would probably want. So we're going to have to meet with <br />23 each different division finance director to determine pay <br />24 scale through the collective bargaining agreements. So the <br />25 highest step, that's where I'm -- my target's -- where I'm <br />ISLAND COURT REPORTING & TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES <br />(808) 933-9800 <br />