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Page 29 <br />1 Department, not only with the prosecutor -- prosecuting <br />2 attorney -- I worked with Mr. Masuda. I've also had to <br />3 sit with civil litigation as a witness. So the same, <br />4 when he comes out of corporation counsel, they're there <br />5 advising the police department on what our role is, not <br />6 to say how we need to testify; but we have -- we want <br />7 to have confidence -- our police department wants to <br />8 have confidence in both the corporation counsel and the <br />9 prosecuting attorney. We need those people to go to <br />10 for advice. We need -- the police department needs -- <br />11 and the fire department, they need to have that <br />12 resource to get the best, best advice. And I assume <br />13 that Craig is one of the two Hawaii attorneys that he <br />14 was referring to. There are two in your office? You <br />15 said there were -- there were a couple of Hawaii <br />16 attorneys in the office and the rest are from the <br />17 mainland? <br />18 MR. MASUDA: Oh, no, no, no. No, no. We <br />19 just had -- there's two new attorneys who came from the <br />20 mainland who lived in Hawaii before. They came back. <br />21 MR. FRATINARDO: Oh, okay. <br />22 MR. MASUDA: Those are the -- those two new <br />23 ones. <br />24 MR. FRATINARDO: Sure. <br />25 So, for me as an officer, I relied on our <br />ISLAND COURT REPORTING & TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES <br />(808) 933-9800 <br />