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<br />RAY: You know, they’ve got two sets of, you know, charter proposals, you know, already, so -, but, you
<br />know, they don’t contain complete language and whatever, so, you know, at least what was proposed
<br />and what was, you know, language -, the full proposal language, right, so you understand that, not in an
<br />abbreviated form.
<br />HERKES: Well -.
<br />RAY: But what, you know -, so we -, you know, so you take a specific, you know, Proposal 6, 1979,
<br />dealing with the Department of Water Supply. I mean, do we want somebody to go through and, you
<br />know, all the files and do a summary of all the discussion around, you know, that led up to that
<br />proposal? I mean, just what is it we want? Or do we just want, you know, what the -?
<br />HERKES: What I found really helpful is to go and ask people that were on those Charter Commissions,
<br />what did you guys talk about when you talked about this? What was the background on this? Some of it
<br />is not published.
<br />RAY: Yeah, but that, you know, that’s 30 years ago, in the case of this.
<br />HERKES: But there are still people alive who were on that first one.
<br />RAY: I know there are but -. Sue.
<br />IRVINE: Yeah, charters are kind of like a constitution, I mean, that’s what they are, and they don’t
<br />necessarily change all that much. I mean, you shouldn’t start probably putting in shoreline access -.
<br />HERKES: Well, we can get into that later.
<br />IRVINE: And things, but I mean, so I don’t think the proposals change all that much but we -, it might
<br />be easier than going though all this past stuff to just go out to the National Civic League and see, you
<br />know, what their stuff is on forms of government and what not if we’re thinking of really changing
<br />something in a big way. Or like here, the Water Department, I don’t think there’s -, I haven’t heard any
<br />noise about putting them back under the Mayor or something, which is what -.
<br />SANTANGELO: Oh, yes, there has been.
<br />IRVINE: They were doing the last time.
<br />HERKES: You will.
<br />IRVINE: Is there?
<br />SANTANGELO: Oh, yes.
<br />IRVINE: Okay. Well, then we would need -.
<br />SANTANGELO: It doesn’t mean you go with it.
<br />IRVINE: I would -.
<br />SANTANGELO: But, yes, there’s a lot of that.
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