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minutes 02-05-00Page 22 of 66 <br />RAY: Just from the discussions we’ve had about more fiscal management performance review, trying to incorporate those <br />kinds of sentiments, and oversight, just to spell it out in more detail. And I think it also lays it out for the Mayor a little more <br />clearly, the role and the involvement of the Managing Director. <br />MARTIN: Mr. Chair, if I may interject. Excuse me but I believe there’s a motion on the floor, and it was seconded. <br />SANTANGELO: We’re in the discussion. <br />MARTIN: Okay. <br />RAY: So the motion on the floor would be to adopt the Department of Management language in the Maui Charter vs. the <br />language in the memo that I furnished. <br />HIGASHI: No, I’m not even considering your memo right now. I’m considering only having this thing described as <br />Managing Director and it’s functions. <br />BESS: But that conflicts with what John’s prepared on this one. <br />HIGASHI: Yes. <br />BESS: So you’re saying that you’d rather have the Maui one than his. <br />HIGASHI: I want to start with this. <br />RAY: Right. I thought that’s what I said. <br />HIGASHI: One of my reasons is under the Managing Director, under the description, five years experience in an <br />administrative capacity, and shall possess demonstrable educational and/or professional experience in the art and science of <br />government management. I think maybe business people have a lot to offer in terms of business experience, running <br />government, so I’d prefer broader language giving the Mayor an opportunity to select somebody with experience as <br />prescribed in the Maui Charter, in public or in private. <br />RAY: Okay. Steve. <br />BESS: One of the things that I see that John is trying to do, and certainly I would agree with that, and Marni is there as well, <br />is that, personally, I really would like to see a County Manager. We recognize that this was not the right time to do it. I think <br />we were going to have to rewrite the whole Charter. It was too much. And so that this is an interim step towards, hopefully, <br />the next Charter around, they will see fit to adopting that form of government. So, that’s why there is the degree of detail in <br />here about, hey, this guy is a real manager, and recognize that he’s a manager, and put language in there that removes some <br />of the stuff where the Mayor looks like he is the CEO. He’s still the CEO, but we’re putting more and more power in that <br />Managing Director position. And so, with regard to (d), I think that’s important, and I like some of the detail. I am concerned <br />with a couple of the things in there where, and I’m straying from the point here, but on Section 6-1.3(d) that John <br />recommends, where he’s saying that there will be reports to the Mayor and Council on the findings and recommendations, <br />the reports are being made to the Council. Again, we’re working towards that County Manager. The one thing that I would <br />say, and I mentioned this to John earlier, and that is is that I’m wondering whether or not in the reports to the Mayor, there <br />ought to be routine reports setting up bi-annual reports so that there will, in fact, be reports, so that the Managing Director <br />can’t wait out the demands of others saying, hey, make reports. <br />RAY: John. <br />SANTANGELO: I just want to speak to John’s proposal in broad spectrum. What I appreciate about it is where it’s coming <br />from, and it’s coming from an individual who I worked with, who understands government and worked as an elected official, <br />is no longer, in any way, a professional politician, and has looked at the flaws and how the system does and doesn’t work, <br />because it’s not mutually exclusive. You can have a business minded person, but I think you need some of this other in there, <br />and I’m appreciating that part of it. So, I just say let’s look at it from that viewpoint, and maybe we can reach an agreement. <br />RAY: Roland. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 02-05-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />