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minutes 02-05-00Page 23 of 66 <br />HIGASHI: If we can amend Section 6-1.2 with the Managing Director’s description under Maui 8-1.2, I would have no <br />objections to the other parts. <br />RAY: In response to that, I really wasn’t not only not wed to this arts and science of government management. That doesn’t <br />really appeal to me that much. It’s just that I couldn’t think of anything else. That was just one of the examples. <br />MARTIN: See what you get for being cute? <br />IRVINE: I, kind of, like that. <br />HIGASHI: We still have the Mayor form of government, and he’s going to appoint somebody who’s going to implement <br />these things, but I think that, if you adopt, in my opinion, somebody with experience in administrative capability both in <br />public or private, I’ll buy that. And as far as item (d), I have no objections to that. I think we’re heading in the right direction. <br />RAY: Sue. <br />IRVINE: I guess, on (d), what Marni mentioned about appoint the necessary staff, is there some way we can state that so you <br />could go - <br />HERKES: Secure? <br />YUEN: I have a suggestion for that. And that is that you already have it at the top here, and it was interesting to me that <br />under our Charter, there’s nothing that says the Managing Director has to have necessary staff, and I think the Managing <br />Director does not actually head up a Department of Management. That’s why I asked, and I was trying to think, they have <br />two people. So, you don’t need to say in (d) that you have necessary staff to do (d) because you have necessary staff up at the <br />very top, and so they can appoint necessary staff to do any of the functions that they have. <br />RAY: More input? Steve. <br />BESS: I just thought that it might be helpful to assist the executive agencies in improving their performance, and make one <br />suggestion, bi-annual reports to the Mayor and the Council on the findings. And likewise, it may be necessary to put in some <br />time provisions on the Police Commission and the Fire Commission, as well. Or the other alternative is to make it so that the <br />Fire Commission and Police Commission could request the Managing Director to go ahead and do that, and that he should <br />report in response to that. <br />IRVINE: We can put the Police and Fire in one sentence, saying Police Commission and Fire Commission will be reported to <br />when their respective departments are - pardon? <br />SANTANGELO: Don’t we have to wait until we have a Fire Commission? <br />IRVINE: Well, that’s the kind of language that we’re going to let the Corporation Counsel straighten out after we get done, <br />right? If there is no Fire Commission, we’re going to let him or her take that out, hopefully. <br />YUEN: You have to put a little footnote in this, and this is one of the tricky things about the ballot. Actually, I think what I <br />would say is, probably, all Commissions would prepare an annual report and just leave out Police and Fire, but then you have <br />Liquor and Civil Service, but yes, you could make them have an annual report too. <br />MARTIN: Yes, we had twelve meetings. Thank you very much. <br />YUEN: Yes. Well, the Executive Commissions would produce an annual report. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with <br />that. That solves your problem of whether or not you have a Fire Commission, which you’re not going to know until the <br />voters vote. <br />IRVINE: Okay. <br />RAY: In regard to Steve’s concern about spelling out the review periods. There again, if you use Maui as a model on this, <br />their Cost of Government Commission is bi-annual, so whether you had a Commission or not, that’s another discussion. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 02-05-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />