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just amazes me. That much people and they have, sometimes, greater issues than we do and they're still one city and county, and they survive. That's why I asked. TANAKA: ,And those of us who live on both sides of the island, like myself - Before my son was born, I spent just about 50% on the Kona side out of my Kona office and out of my Kona home, so what happens to people like us? RAY: Roland. No? Daryl. KUROZAWA: I just want to make a statement to go on the record. I know that one of the comments about having two Commissions - it seems like some of the push is from the West side, and being from the West side, just to let you know, I don't think some of those people are speaking for everybody from the West side. There are some of us from Kona who feel that we have fair representation, so I just want people to know that it's not a blanket statement from all the people from West Hawaii. TANAKA: Thank you. RAY: Any other questions for Mr. Tanaka? Sue. IRVINE: I was wondering if he was going to address the other matters that came in on the letter? • RAY: This would be the time if you would like to. IRVINE: What about Section 5-4.3 PLANNING COMMISSIONS. It said to include the following language as one of the duties as the Commission which is similar to the Charter of the County of Maui, and that is "Act as the authority in all matters relating to the Coastal Zone Management Law." Is that what you were talking about right at the beginning? TANAKA: No, but thank you for bringing that up. We are right now going through a dilemma. It's somewhat resolved but there were two SMA permits that have been - Well, we're about to be vacated by Judge Ibarra, on the Kona side, and we know that at least one of them, and possibly two, as the Chairman had mentioned earlier before the meeting, that they will be remanded back to the Commission, and the main argument by the judge is that we do not have an advisory body regarding Coastal Zone Management. Virginia is going to elaborate more on that, but I think this is an issue that needs to' be addressed. We have some short term resolutions that we need to figure out, and I'll have Virginia address that. But we also need to look at the long term. Who is going to be the body that addresses the Coastal Zone Management Laws? As the Planning Commission, and the experience that I have had, we hear all of the information. When you have a contested case, the parties will bring in expert 8