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function falls to Public Works by our subdivision ordinance. Also, the Chief Engineer <br />is responsible for certain standards with respect to roads that, if it were in one <br />department, would be easier to streamline the process. That's really where I see the <br />public benefit. <br />YOSHIYAMA: You know the cost of this? <br />GOLDSTEIN: No. <br />YOSHIYAMA: I guess I don't understand one stop processing from this <br />standpoint. Say, in the Planning Department and Public Works, are we talking about <br />a person handling a variation of this process or permitting, or are we talking about <br />moving the functions from two different departments, putting them in one division and <br />still having to go through various stages within that division? Because then all we did <br />was make a move and not get any benefit out of it. <br />GOLDSTEIN: I think if you had it combined, then you can start revising things so <br />that, in fact, you would be getting rid of some of the actual redundancies. For example, <br />in processing a building permit and, for example, some of the definitions, some of these <br />things can go on without a Charter Amendment and without necessarily combining the <br />actual bodies and divisions. But I'll tell you, I think that the practical reality is as long <br />as there's two different bodies, they're going to be saying, that's not my kuleana, it's <br />yours and there is this constant finger pointing and things falling through the gap, <br />• whereas if you had them actually combined in a division, would be lessened. I'm not <br />saying it would be totally removed, but it would be lessened. <br />YOSHIYAMA: Okay, thank you. <br />RAY: Roland. <br />HIGASHI: In your department, how many people are involved in the <br />permitting process? The plan approval person, is that a full time position? <br />KOKUBUN: Eight. <br />GOLDSTEIN: He thinks eight. Positions as opposed to people that we have on <br />board right now, there's a difference, but eight. <br />HIGASHI: Eight full time people. Is that all they do or they do that and a <br />variety of other things? <br />GOLDSTEIN: That's pretty much all they do. <br />14 <br />