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SANTANGELO: Right, and we don't need to deal with that either. This is something that deals with all of that later on. To me, it's real simple. RAY: Go ahead, Roland. HIGASHI: My whole idea on this initiative was at least to have it in the Charter so that, as we move along in the future, we have an opportunity to either plan for that department - Maybe we're not ready to do it now, but if it's in the Charter, and we need to have language to allow it to happen, and if our legal counsel can, kind of, put some language in there that would reflect that, because if it's not in the Charter, we'll be faced with the same problem we have now. YUEN: You can authorize a separate department, which would then have an implementing ordinance, at some point down the road, when the people who are a little closer to how the thing is actually going to be run, have a better idea of what they're going to do. We've talked a little bit about the operations of a department like this, whether it would handle recycling and solid waste, and naturally, the operations and the structure need to go together. And I don't know that the Charter Commission is going to be able to get their hands on how something like this is actually going to work in practice. So, without too much trouble, we could authorize a department. We could say something about recycling being a function of the new department, or if they don't create the new department, that Public Works is supposed to pay a little more attention to it. Because I think that that's where a lot of the groups that have been involved in recycling are more concerned about, rather than is there a separate department. It's that they feel that it hasn't worked for them with the people that they have to work through in the County, rather than how the organization chart works. It's just that the operation hasn't happened right. As far as your question, can I do that? Yes, that's something that can be done without a great deal of detail and additional kinds of research and decision making, because we're not going to be spelling out organizational structure that moves over. HIGASHI: And I think the Charter should be broad, but we should define a responsibility if we can. And, Mr. Chair, I'd like to ask legal counsel, with the consent of everybody, to, kind of, formalize some parameters to begin with, because right now, we're getting into the detailed things of operational, and this and that. RAY: Okay. Chris, are you comfortable going ahead on that basis? YUEN: Yes, I can do that. I've heard enough of what people are trying to get toward to put up something. IRVINE: departments. I have a lot of papers here with descriptions of these various RAY: So, do we want to take any sort of preliminary vote on this, or wait till we get some language, and see where it's headed? 11